May 22, 2024 · 50 minutes
Dr. Jennifer Rivera, Director of Education Programs for Answers in Genesis, steps into “The Corner.”
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0:00 - 15:00. 1 Timothy 4:12. Reconsider youthfulness. 15:00 - 31:00. Dr. Jennifer Rivera, Director of Education Programs for Answers in Genesis, steps into “The Corner.” 31:00 - 48:00. A Maryland U.S. District Court and the 4th Circuit Court of Appeals both say parents can no longer opt their children out of LGBTQIAP+ indoctrination in public schools. Video Clip Links “Holistic Thought Advisor” Court rules parents can't opt kids out of LGBTQ+ curriculum in Maryland
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- answersingenesis.org answersingenesis.org
- American Family Association afa.net/events
- afa.givevirtuous.org afa.givevirtuous.org/Event/afa-at-the-ark-2024
- AFR afr.net/speakers
- cultureproof.net cultureproof.net/pages/details
- heav.org heav.org/convention
- rockymountainhomeschoolconference.com rockymountainhomeschoolconference.com
- X x.com/writingleeman/status/1793294622900289591
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Darkness is not an affirmative force. It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light. This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio. It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite. Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media. And the philosophies of this world. God has called you and me to be his ambassador. Even in this dark moment. Let's not miss our moment. And now the Hamilton Corner. Good evening. Good evening, everybody. Yeah, I can't say evening. I'm starting off the show with the bags. Evening. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio. I am your host, Abraham Hamilton, the third joined by the corner contingent. Right across from me and my man, a hundred grand, Mr. Bobby. and he's laughing at my inability to say the word evening at the moment. I guess he has a low standard for comedic prowess. The word for today is, enunciate. And in this greeny room we have produced Extraordinary, often imitated but never duplicated. You know what it is. The real J. Mac, ladies and gentlemen, who are ready to rock and roll with today's edition of the program at this very moment, many of you, if not most of you, are transitioning from your part time jobs. I have to come up with another word because transitioning is just something I just, you know, these people use even though the reality is you can never transition from meal to female. It doesn't stop people from saying those things. So I guess I would just stick with what's the truth of the word means. So as you are transitioning from your part time jobs to your full time jobs, I want you encourage you to do so with intentionality, intentionality, and embraced the Lord's design for the family. The first institution that God established, the first human institution was the family.
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First command God gave to mankind, he was issued within the familial context. The fulcrum of the family is marriage. For those who may be confused as to what that is, God as marriage's designer is alone. It's definer, it's soul definer. That's right, Tabitha said, don't cave, Abe. That's right, cave in. given these people the word transition. God as his designer is its designer, it's its sole definer. So marriage consists of one man committing himself a lifelong complimentary union with his wife, which includes the physical, cultural components of it that is only available to one man and one woman, dedicate themselves with the capacity to bear offspring. God instituted that and it is and will remain. all time the definition of marriage. So as you're making your transitions, I want to encourage you to prioritize your family appropriately that within your own home God has provided you the opportunity to execute his commission. Family is not the exclusive context through which we are called to follow him, but the call to follow Christ starts inside of us first and then the immediate external impact zone for that Christ following begins right where we are. So as you transition to your full time job today, if you're not accustomed to doing so, I would encourage you to transform your home into an altar of incense to worship the King of glory. To where you fathers who are listening to me, husbands and fathers, where you lead your families as the priests of your home, lifting up holy hands without wrath and doubting and where you lead your family in worship.
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Before you get to the corporate assembly, it is important for your children to see you exalt the king of glory on a regular basis On a daily basis and to recognize that it is not necessary when I want to say not necessary It is not exclusive to what happens When you gather with the Lord's people corporately that God calls us the worship of daily man You set your hearts and minds on the word of God one small tip I'll just share with you guys. I leave my family in devotions after I leave this program in the evenings and it does not require particular skills that some people must say, well Abraham I'm not a Bible teacher, you don't have to be a Bible teacher. You can simply open the Word of God and read it. Sing a hymn and pray for your family. You can it can be done between within 10 to 15 minutes but with consistency you will lead your family in recognizing that really one of the most important things we do with our day is when we set our hearts and minds upon the Lord together to worship him. To the word of God we go, first Timothy chapter four, this evening, first Timothy chapter four. Many of you are familiar with this. Some of you who may be new to this program and new to the scripture may not be as familiar, but Paul's first epistle to Timothy is in the New Testament. It punctuates a relationship, a discipleship relationship between the Apostle Paul and Timothy that begins when Timothy is a much younger man And it kind of culminates later on in Paul's life when he's incarcerated. And Timothy is installed as an elder in the Lord's church in the city of Ephesus. I've explained before, Ephesus was a real city on the southwestern region of modern day Turkey. All right. And after being discipled by the Apostle Paul, Timothy is ultimately established as an elder there. You can cross-reference Timothy's, Epistles to Timothy with Acts 16 and 17 going forward there where Paul first meets Timothy.
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But in 1 Timothy 4 Paul says something because he met him as a young man and he's not as young as he was at the time Paul wrote 1 Timothy when they first met but he makes an observation that we all I believe will be able to resonate with. And the Apostle Paul says this 1 Timothy 4 verse 12 he says Let no one look down on you. I'm sorry, let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, faith, and purity show yourself an example of those who believe. Read that again. Let no one look down on your youthfulness, but rather in speech, conduct, love, Faith, purity, show yourself as an example of those who believe. With every fiber of my being, I know that the Lord requires His body to have a recalibration of what we expect of youthfulness and what we invest into those who are youthful. This will apply to those who are youthful in chronological years spent on the Lord's earth. age, as well as those who may be young in faith. Paul is identifying here something that is a consistent phenomenon in all humanity, that there is this tendency for a bit of looking down upon those who are young, lowering expectations, you know, allowing the common experiences of the world to set the experience for those who are part of the Lord's remnant or is called out ones. but Paul arrests that first in Timothy himself, saying to Timothy, hey, you may be younger than people expect, but your youthfulness does not dictate the quality of your faithful witness as an ambassador to the Lord Jesus Christ.
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As a faithful follower of the Lord Jesus Christ, your youthfulness is not a dictate, does not dictate to you the quality of that. So you Timothy first and foremost, get your mind right. You understand that your age doesn't set the stage for what is required of you. Then the Apostle Paul goes on to say to Timothy, who again is an elder in the Lord's church at this time, to say, but you rather instead of having a minimized view of yourself because of your age or embracing externalized minimize views of you because of your age, rather you You should be an example of those who believe. You should be a representative, an authentic, qualitative representative of what Christ-following looks like. That will include your speech. What you say should be an accurate reflection and an example to the world around you of what a believer's life looks like, or what a believer's speech sounds like, the way we use our words. The way we communicate the truth of our Lord's gospel should be indicated by the way you speak. I want to encourage everybody listening to me, especially those who are younger believers listening to me. The way you use your words should be indicative of what it looks like for a Christ follower to use words. The Apostle Paul communicates the Timothy something that was a consistent feature of his own life that you not only should pay attention to what I say and heed what I teach in my formal affirmative presentations of the gospel, but make sure you consider what I say in light of the volume of how I live. Because he says your example to me in the verse four should not be confined to what you say, but you should also be an example of what a believer is to the watching world in your conduct. Many people dismiss the truth claims of Christ because they're so frequently confronted by false representatives. Whose word and walk contradict, whose speech and feet diverge. But the believer should be one whose word and walk match. That I'm not just teaching what I think you should comply with. I am sharing with you what I implement in my own life. We must have a recalibration of youthfulness because Timothy is, I'm sorry, Paul is communicating the reality that it is possible and available to a Christ follower who may be youthful to be an authentic representative of what Christ following looks like. We got to set the bar higher family, we have got to raise the bar, we have got to recognize we got to give our children more than graham crackers and apple juice, man.
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Stock puppet shows and those kind of things. Young believers need the exact same thing. Older believers need the substance of Christ following. They may require communication in a different manner, just like those who may not be technologically savvy may require some difference in communication. But don't get it twisted. The substance must remain consistent, must remain the same. Young Timothy, youthful, younger, believer, you are to be an example of what Christ's followers are to be in love. I was talking to a young brother this week, is that we have got to review so loud the world to tell us what love is. Because news flash, the world don't know. The world doesn't know. Love is not an emotion, it is an act of the will. It is accompanied by emotion, but it is not confined or limited to an emotion. The Lord said of himself, great of love has no man than this, that he laid down his life for his friends. The Apostle Paul is communicating that the possibility, the reality exists. It is available to us for youthfulness to also include accurate example, an accurate example of what a believer's life looks like, a life of love, youthfulness. Verse four, chapter four, verse 12, can be an example to the watching world. in faith. I mean, I pray that the Word of God is simmering to the depths of your spirits right now because for buying large many of us, we've allowed the world to set the standard for us for what we expect of youth. And as a result, what we invest in youth, when all the while this quality is available, that the youthful can be examples in speech and conduct, love and faith. And the youth, youthfulness can be an example of what a believer's life should look like in purity. I love that the Lord by His Spirit moves the Apostle Paul to say to be an example in purity because we must never misconstrue purity with being synonymous with abstinence. When I say abstinence and I'm not limiting it to the sexual context, I'm talking about across the board because purity is a heart condition. A person can abstain from a particular behavior or particular pursuit, while all the while longing for it on the inside.
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But those who are pure in heart, they have a satification at the desire level, at the desire level. We must have a recalibration of what we expect of usefulness, because if we're not careful, we could find ourselves while professing to be Christ followers conformed to the way of the world. Do we expect nothing different of ourselves? Nothing different of the youthful among us? Nothing different of the parents and the elders among us? Because we think youthfulness is synonymous with folly. That doesn't have to be the case, even if it's a frequent phenomenon, it doesn't have to be the case for the Lord's called out ones. I'd like to take a minute and have a heart to heart with you. If you're able, place your hand over your heart. Can you feel it? My strong heartbeat reminds me that I'm alive. See, it's the same for an unborn baby. The heart begins to form at conception, and at just three weeks is already beating. At five weeks, a baby's heart can be heard on an ultrasound. That's where pre-born steps in, rescuing 200 babies every day from abortion by simply providing a mother with a free ultrasound and allowing her to hear her child's heartbeat and see their perfectly formed body in the womb. By six weeks eyes are forming. By ten weeks, a baby is able to suck his or her thumb. Preborn needs our help to save these precious babies. For just $28, you could be the difference between the life or death of a baby. All gifts are tax deductible. To donate, just dial pound 250 and say the key word baby. That's pound 250 baby. Or donate securely at preborn.com. That's preborn.com. Shining light into the darkness.
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This is the Hamilton Corner, an American family radio. Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton. The third here I'm excited to have on the program with me. A guest now who has an doctorate in education. She has an MAT in science with a science concentration, a bachelor's in criminal justice, as well as hundreds of training in the forensic disciplines. My guest now serves as director of educational programs for answers and Genesis. My guest is Dr. Jennifer Rivera. Thank you so much for joining me here on the Hamilton Corner. Yes, thank you, Abraham. I'm excited to be here tonight. Oh, I'm excited to have you on the program as well. In light of your illustrious background and all of your credentials, I'm interested in, I'm sure, our audiences as well. and how did you come to the place to where you joined answers and Genesis? Well, it's a rather long story, but I'll make it short. My father was a forensic scientist as well. So from a young age, my father just kind of is still that passion in me, but he was also a godly man who stands on biblical authority. So from a young age, I was raising a Christian home, raising a Christian school. So it wasn't surprising I followed my father's footsteps when it became employed in a crime scene unit. Did thoroughly enjoy my time there, but got married became a mother of four and so it became a little difficult to keep that schedule So I did resign and actually went into education Because I could be on the same schedule with my daughters So that got really blessed me and what was amazing is I was then able to take my passion for science and forensic science and then educate the next generation So I've been educating for over 20 years And so it was about eight years ago when the Lord just said, you know, I have things for you to do at answers and Genesis. It was almost as clear as that.
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And we had been visiting here with a family, as my family. And I kept saying, you know, this would be a great place to have educational programs. And I just didn't see a whole lot going on. And of course, that was, you know, many years ago here at the Creation Museum, we're much larger now today. I just mailed it in and didn't even know who to address it to. That's the honest truth. And it got into the right hands. And then sure enough, I got a phone call that they were interested in talking to me. And so they created a position for me. And now I'm here as director of educational programs. Wow, that's pretty cool. It's always, I always enjoy seeing and learning how God leads different people to different places where he calls him to serve him really for his glory. You are also currently the leader of the popular hands-on forensics program at answers in Genesis. Would you just share the audience a little bit and you and I talked during the break briefly, but share with the audience a bit what is forensic science? Some people from the science is a general discipline, but what is forensic science? Yeah, so forensic science, there's like over 20 disciplines that fall under that umbrella. And so we do offer a variety of programs here at answers and Genesis, so that kids can dive into criminal investigation, but also how we can see God's glory in every single discipline. And that's probably my favorite part of teaching forensic science. It doesn't matter whether it's trace analysis with human hair versus animal fur. It doesn't matter if it's DNA. It doesn't matter if it's blood. It doesn't matter if it's fingerprints, which is my specialty. Every single discipline directly confirms scripture and points back to, God is the author and designer of that. And because we have an orderly God, he allowed us to have orderly processes so we can investigate crimes and bring justice into his sinful broken world. Yeah, it's amazing. Earlier this week I was talking about some people have some misunderstandings about the role of government and how the Lord and Romans 12 goes on to discourage the believer in seeking personal individual, vigilante style justice, telling the believer in Rome that vengeance its mind, says, Lord, I will repay.
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But then in chapter 13, he describes government as his minister of justice, and even goes as far as to say is minister of temporal justice, because he's ultimately the enforcer, if you will, of eternal justice, but describes government as the, his means of applying and securing temporal justice and even saying that the government doesn't bear the sword in in vain. And so sometimes people feel to misunderstand how those things actually work together. Now, I heard you refer to growing up in a Christian home, going to Christian school. Would you share with the listeners a bit about how you came to faith in Jesus Christ? Yeah. So I was just fortunate to be, you know, brought up in a Christian family. And I remember it as if it was yesterday. I was sitting in church. It was a Sunday evening because we were there every time the door was open. And I just felt the Lord calling me that night. And I said to my parents, I said, you know, it's time for me to ask Jesus into my heart. I realized I needed that personal relationship with him. And so I went down, accepted Christ as my savior. And then it was probably in my teenage years when I realized that, you know, yes, we can say yes and we can get saved, but then it's time to develop and call a better relationship with him. You know, and that is our response. That. and we kind of had a little technical difficulty. I hope we can get it back up. Cause I didn't, we didn't get to hear everything you said. We missed out some of that. I'm so sorry. No, I'm sorry. No, I mean, technology is great when it works. And when it's doesn't, it doesn't. Do you want me to repeat? If you would please, that would be helpful. Yes. How much did you hear? We just heard the part about you being grateful to grow up in the Christian home. Okay. So I was sitting in church. I was six years old. I remember it was March of 1977. And I just heard the Lord, it was invitation time. We were there every time the doors opened and I just felt this burden and pressure that, you know, the Lord was calling me and I went down and got saved and then was baptized and have, you know, grown in my faith with the Lord since then.
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So I'm thankful for that relationship and that I can call him Savior. Oh, praise God. And thank you for your graciousness and being willing to explain that again. I really, really appreciate that. Oh, that's fine. Now, in your role as director of educational programs at AIG, what does that all entail? Yeah, so I oversee all the different types of programs that we do have here, and a lot of people are shocked when they realize, wow, I didn't know interest in Genesis offered all that. So we have programs for kids ages 5 to 10, we have programs for kids ages 11 to 18 and we call those explore programs and so we focus on one discipline so we may have like chemistry day or forensic science day which is my favorite or biology day and the kids can come with their parents and they can enroll and they can you know dive into that particular discipline for three hours, get hands-on experimentation because that's a focus we have as everything They need to be hands-on so kids can really bring that science to life. We also have adult programs for kids over 18. We had so many adults saying, hey, you're doing such amazing thing for children, but we want to learn too. So we started our exploration program. We also have excursions. So those are off site. So I'm actually leaving for the Galapagos Islands on Saturday for a two week educational trip with 25 other people. It's the first time interest in Genesis is going there. really excited about that. We're going to Mount St. Helens next year. So we lead educational opportunities offsite as well as onsite. And then we also have free programs that go on here every day at the Creation Museum. They're included with the mission. And so I present in several of those as well as several other people, every program from a biblical worldview showing that science clearly confirms the Bible. And then we can trust God's Word as his perfect spoken Word. And that's what a lot of people struggle with this, can we trust the Bible, right? And we can because it's from the creator of the universe. And so every program has that inner woven in here. We also have a whole lab program for home school students where they can come year round and get high school labs or they can come to our summer intensives. So we have a wide breadth of educational opportunities. We also do CEU training for educators. We do conferences as well. So I always encourage people go to our website, Cloted Creation Museum or the Arc Encounter, you know, .org, click on the Education tab, and then you're gonna see a whole list of everything that we do have coming up, and that is open for registration.
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That sounds so interesting, see, you're making a trek to the land of the finches in the Galapagos Islands. Yes. That's... Well, I know that the ones that he collected, though, were actually not finches or tanagers. Ha! That's... They were misclassified. So we know that we know that today though. Yes. Why am I not shocked? That's because we're going is we're going to debunk a lot of the myths I like to say about the evolution holy place the Galapagos Islands. Oh that sounds so cool. That sounds so cool. Now speaking of the different events and conferences you have. AIG in the Ark Encounter is doing an event along with the American Family Association, October 31st through November 2nd. It is AFA at the Ark. You can go to AFA.net listeners, viewers, you can go to AFA.net slash events to register. But Dr. Rivera, what can people expect attendees coming to AFA at the Ark and in which they'll get to visit the Ark Encounter as well as the Creation Museum? Yeah, so they're going to get state of the art attractions. I say it's one of the number one things we hear. There's people come and go I had no idea what level of quality your exhibits are in all of our teaching signs as well. Everything we do, you know, gives honor and glory to God. So it's all at a level of excellence. So we just have an amazing staff of designers and fabricators that are just so gifted by the Lord and everything that they do. So they're definitely going to get to experience that. It's like Disney level quality is what people describe it as. And then they're also going to the opportunity to have our engaging speakers and our educational programs and attend some of those if they want to. They're going to get to see God's Word clearly present it, right? All throughout both attractions. And you know, we've had many people. In fact, I had a lady today in one of my programs and she just said, I said, oh, you know, you're enjoying the Creation Museum. And she just said, you know, this has just been a life-changing experience for me.
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I think just people come here and realize they're not alone. We hear that a lot, but Christians come and say, wow, look at all the people here, right? There's thousands of people here at this attraction. I'm not alone. I think a lot of people where they live just feel like, wow, am I like the only Christian around? Because we just see that pool getting smaller, but it's just a really encouraging experience that they're going to get here at our attractions. That is wonderful. I will have to say I've been to the Ark Encounter and the Creation Museum and I concur with the assessment of those other visitors that have shared that with you all. What distinguishes, and I'm asking you this as the one who works there, what distinguishes the Ark Encounter and really the Creation Museum from other attractions? You hear the term museum, obviously in Creation Museum? How was it distinct from other experiences people might have had in their lives. Well, one thing is for sure, and that is we stand on authority of scripture. So that is clearly presented in our exhibits and in all our signage. We like to say let the exhibits speak because people are gonna learn just so, so much about biblical truth, and they're gonna get answers to defend their faith. I can't think of any other museum you can go to where you're not gonna get answers to defend their faith. And I think something we uniquely do here we're not afraid to talk about evolution because we know that science and what we observe clearly confirms scripture. And so we'll actually put what evolutionists believe and what creationists believe side by side because we're not afraid to talk about it. And we want people to look at that and really think about it and come to that realization that, wow, evolution really doesn't make sense. There is no observational science for this. It's just someone's idea. and it's just man's false ideology. And that you need to be completely set apart from any other museum I've been to.
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Now you've mentioned a little bit about your upcoming excursion to the Galapagos Islands, but you also mentioned Mount St. Helens, another one of my favorite features and places in relatively recent history. What is it for the viewers and listeners about Mount St. Helens that made it a focal point of a place where you wanted to venture to and to take a group? Yes. So you know, a lot of people will go to the Grand Canyon and see all this secular science that says, it takes millions of years, right, to form, to carve out and form canyons. And so we have to ask the question, well, have we ever observed rapid canyon formation? Well, we have, right? So Mount St. Helens erupted in 1980. And next year is actually the 45th anniversary of that eruption. So we're going to commemorate that. And we're gonna be showing people that you know what, here's a rapid, here's a canyon, right? 140th the size of Grand Canyon that formed in a single day. So could the Grand Canyon have formed very rapidly? Absolutely, right? There's no question about it because we have visibly observed that. So we'll be observing the blast zone, we'll be going to Spirit Lake And we'll just be looking at all the geology there and talking about it through that biblical lens. That sounds fantastic. For the AFA at the Arc event, October 31st, through November 2nd, there are a couple speakers from ARG who will be presenting there. Would you just share a little bit with the audience about those people and what interested parties can anticipate to hear from those wonderful resources? Yes. I am not 100% sure what their topic is. I know it'll be biblical authority. There's no question about that. I know Dr. Georgia Purdum is going to be speaking. She is our VP of our Educational Content Department. And then I know Brian Osborne is also gonna be speaking and he is one of our regular speakers here at the Creation Museum in Arkan Counter and he also does programs in our Discover.
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He also does a lot of our traveling for conferences offsite. So he is fantastic. And I know they are thoroughly going to enjoy both of them. They're two of our best speakers that we have. Praise God. And I've heard Brian Osborne, I concur with you said, he's an amazing and amazing person. I haven't heard you yet. I look forward to getting the opportunity to do that. Oh, you can certainly do that. But thank you so much for joining me today, Dr. Rivera. Thank you for all the work that you do, the program that you bought, kudos to AIG for creating the position for you, a person with whom I share commonalities with your background and forensics and a F A dot net slash events is where you need to go in order to register a F A dot net slash events is where you need to go for a F A at the arc October 31st, due in November 2nd. Thank you, Dr. Rivera. Thank you. You have a great night. You too. Well, folks, you don't want to go anywhere because on the other side of the break, we're going to get into the thick of it. You thought you can escape because I had a guess. Thought you can escape the foolishness but they're still du jour to du jour. It's sad. It is quite sad, but the United States District Court in Maryland, as well as now the fourth U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals have both concluded that parents cannot opt their children out of LGBTQ IAP plus indoctrination. Those state laws says you can. The school district says you can't. And now the courts have agreed you can't you don't want to miss this Stay close Good evening everyone coming up tonight in news the well-known AFR app has been the talk of the town That's right. Tammy. You can listen to live radio and music all in just one app. Sounds like I need to get this myself My thoughts exactly they say it's available for iPhone and Android users Amazon Alexa Roku and the Amazon App Store to an end tonight at nine for more the AFR app.
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Downloaded today. The Hamilton Quarter podcast and one-minute commentaries are available at AFR.net. Back to the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio. Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton. The third here, already in the final segment. So we have a lot more to get to. And a short amount of time to get to it. Just a reminder, June 6th through the 8th in Richmond, Virginia, at the Greater Richmond Convention Center, I will be ministering at the Home Educators Association of Virginia's 41st annual convention, not conference, some of the conferences I'm going to convention. One of the features will include a panel in which I will be a part of with Bill Federer, friend of the program. Well, we're going to talk and address some enduring issues posted something not too long ago on social media about that. I'll have several sessions that I'm presenting at will will be doing the show live from one of the breakout rooms two days during the conference. I'll be ministering as well at the past workshop is going to be an amazing time there. Then the very next week in Denver, Colorado at the Rocky Mountain Homes School Conference, I'll be there June 13th through the 15th. You have to register to attend both of these events for the Virginia event. You have to go to heav.org. the Denver event, you go to Rocky Mountain Homeschool Conference dot com. And then July 18th through the 20th, the Culture Proof Conference will be in Bartlett, Tennessee at Faith Baptist Church. It's going to be an amazing time, man. All of these events are going to be amazing. If you're in those areas or willing to come to those areas, I would love to meet you to hug your next to greet you. Looking forward to being part of God's designed effort to encourage and strengthen and equip his bride for this time that he has planted us in.
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Now before the break I mentioned to you, what happened in the state of Maryland? Three families, interestingly enough, one Christian family, one Muslim family, and one Jewish family, three families in total, all brought a federal lawsuit against the Montgomery County Board of Education. The simple reason the state of Maryland had a law has a law that says parents must be provided advanced notice of materials that will be read to their children. We're talking about kindergarten to fifth graders, okay? Advanced notice of material that will be read to their children and will provide the families an opt out provision. All right. Maryland law requires schools to give parents this opportunity to view the instructional materials to be used in the teaching of family life and human sexuality objectives. But as you wouldn't expect, there was a catch because the school board adopted the Maryland State law but also included a policy that says, however, if such requests to opt out become too frequent or too burdensome, the school may refuse to accommodate the request. Well, these families attempted to opt their children out of this K through fifth grade indoctrination and the school just said, no, you can't do it. You can't do it. So they found a lawsuit. Now, before I get into the courts ruling, I want to give you a little snapshot, if you will, as to what exactly this Montgomery County K through five education curriculum, what it all includes. All right. So right out of the gate, the Montgomery public, the Montgomery County Public Schools website makes it clear what they're seeking to accomplish because they have a section on the website set. That is their LGBT section that says quote, we have welcoming affirming schools, classrooms, teams and clubs. We value all of our children, youth, teachers, staff and parents.
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Students are also provided a quote coming out as you guide that instructs children. Are you listening to me? That instructs children to how to come out. The coming out guide includes things like a quote unquote safety plan, which tells students to make sure they have a safe place outside of their home to stay with someone seemingly beside their parents that they can trust and to quote, consider letting a friend know that you're planning on coming out just in case you may be in danger. Then the school in particular has a culturally responsive supplemental elementary collection, an ELA collection. And this is a snapshot of what is included in the, oh yes, Tara, that's right. That's on the school district's website. This is a snapshot of what the Montgomery County School District and the school in particular included in the Cultural Responses supplementary, sorry, Cultural Responses Supplemental Elementary Collection. Did I already mention that this is for children? kindergarten through fifth grade? Did I mention that already, Bobby? Just in case I didn't, I wanna mention this. kindergarten to fifth grade. It includes things like this. Here's one book. The book's title is Born Ready. The true story of a boy named Penelope. You see, Penelope is a girl, but she identifies herself, and she's always known that she's a boy and a ninja. The problem is getting everyone else to realize it. This is a book that is assigned to the kindergarteners through second graders in Montgomery, Montgomery County Public Schools in Maryland. Then you have three additional books that focus on a character by the name of Max, who is a transgender identifying elementary school age student who dedicates time to educating friends and teachers and parents about what being transgender means.
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Alright, then you have a next set in category. These next books deal with same-sex issues, and it's specifically slated for four-year-olds to eight-year-olds. One of these books is about a prince and a knight who fall in love. Another book is about a child's homosexual uncle who gets married and then specifically the book for four to eight year olds is titled Love Violet and it's about an elementary age girl who falls in love with another girl. Not to be done to avoid any efforts of subtlety. There's another title for another book and this book is titled Intersection Allies. We make room for all. as the title tells you, it is a book on intersectional feminism that teaches children how to be activists. Then you have another book that's with fifth graders that's titled, Let's Eat Bugs, that teaches children how to eat bugs. Now all of this is a part of the elementary curriculum in Montgomery County, Maryland. These families filed a lawsuit to opt their children out of these, this material, yet the US District Judge Deborah Boardman in Maryland dismissed the case and dismissed the parents' concerns, noting that every court that has reviewed similar mandatory public school curricula has found that, quote, mere exposure in public school to ideas that contradict religious police do does not burden the religious exercise of students or parents. Judge Boardman continued, quote, the parents still may instruct their children on their religious beliefs regarding sexuality, marriage, and gender. And each family may place contrary views in its religious context. No government action prevents the parents from freely discussing the topics raised in the storybooks with their children or cheating their children as they wish. End quote. Miss Boardman, that I think the issue judge, and this is another one of the reasons why I say guys, just because a person has a robe on, just because you have a lawyer in the black dress doesn't mean that they're wise.
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Because with the judge, the district court judge simply said was, well, nothing should keep the children from learning this at school. You can teach whatever you want to teach them at home, but as far as the school is concerned, they're going to learn this. Then of course the families appeal that decision to the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, and the three-judge panel ruled recently that they were going to up-hell uphold the district court judge's decision because the parents could not demonstrate how the LGBTQIAP plus themed books would be used in the classroom and therefore the panel could not determine whether or not the book usage would infringe upon their beliefs. Now I want to be fair as fair as I can this is a ruling on a preliminary injunction, the family can still challenge the case on the merits with a more developed record, but as it stands, as we're talking, we're talking right this moment, the United States District Court in Maryland, as well as the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals, which governs cases from Maryland, North and South Carolina, Virginia and West Virginia, and simply said, well, because you can't really show us how the books are going to be used. And I'm like, Really judge? You wonder how love violence is gonna be used. You wonder how the book about Max, you know, the transgender elementary school students gonna be used. Really? Really? And what I want you to wrap your noodle around is the law in Maryland said the parents should be allowed an opt out. But the school district just said, no, we're not doing that. We're not doing that. Listen to and watch this brief clip concerning this case. It's clip number two, go. It is an issue that Fox 5 has covered extensively for the last year. Thousands of parents gathering at rallies, protests, and school board meetings.
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On Wednesday, a divided federal appeals court ruled that Maryland parents cannot opt their children out of LGBTQ inclusive book curriculum in classrooms. This stems from a lawsuit brought by parents in Montgomery County. Eric Baxter is the senior counsel at the Beckett Fund for religious liberty, representing roughly 300 parents, Muslims, Christians, and Ethiopian Orthodox who want to be able to excuse their pre-K to fifth grade students from those specific materials. The issues around sexuality that are simply too mature for such young children. The Fourth Circuit affirmed the District Court's opinion with a split court. Two judges agreed with the lower court. One judge dissented. U.S. Circuit Judge Steven A.G. wrote the majority opinion, who was appointed by a former president George W. Bush. Circuit Judge DeAndria Benjamin was appointed by Mr. Robinette. They agreed parents could knock out. The loan dissenter was Circuit Judge Marvin Kwatobaum, who was appointed by former president Trump. But as it stands today, the ruling from the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals says that parents can't opt their children out. So I want you to think through what I'm saying to you. Because some people thought they had refuge because, well, you know, in my neck of the woods, we can just opt out. Not if the Fourth Circuit decision is allowed to stand. And I intentionally went through what the books were and what they sought to teach. So you would be able to refute anybody would say, aww, come on, you just don't want children learning about different types of people, really? Is this learning simply about different types of people? who is this promulgated to persuade these kindergartners or fifth graders as to what they should pursue? I'm just, I mean, when is enough gonna be enough?
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When is enough gonna be enough? You see, the government has established its objectives include the advocacy for wickedness. And if the government has control of the schools, what do you think they're going to teach? I'm not talking about the teachers. I know we have Godly people who are in the schools. God the administrators, but they are in a system that has excluded the knowledge of God. That is the reality, people. That is the reality. So now these families are literally fighting for their children's hearts and minds in courts because the school system and the school boards have said, no, we've determined what's right and we're going to pursue it. I'll have more to say on this later, but I'm going to end this program on a chuckle. The 21st century's Daily Show took a swipe at the word salad queen herself, cackling Kamala Harris, because unbeknownst to you, she has hired, not really, this is just comedy center say, a holistic thought advisor. Listen to you and watch clip number one, go. I lead the vice president on not so much sentences as idea voyages. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree? You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you. It's a process I call speaking without thinking. It's not about the destination of the thought. It's about the journey and how many words you use to describe the journey. That's on top of everything else. That we know and don't know yet based on what we've just been able to see and because because we've seen it or not, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
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Well we all know what that means, don't we? It seems like the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals is on the journey of speaking without thinking, except they thought about it and still ruled. Guys, there's no such thing as neutral. You can believe that if you want, but when you see things like this, the Maryland Montgomery County School District saying, no, you can no longer opt your children out of this stuff. My question is, when is enough gonna be enough? What is it I'm going to be enough? These folks want to capture the hearts and minds of our children. What are we going to do about them? The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.