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    Darkness is not an affirmative force. It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light. This is the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio. It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite. Delivery people under the bondage of mainstream media. And the philosophies of this world. God has called you and me to be His ambassador. Even in this dark moment. Let's not miss our moment. and now the Hamilton Corner. Welcome to this edition of the Hamilton Corner on the American Family Radio Network. Alex McFarland here, very, very honored to be with you, very honored to be sitting in, as I frequently do for attorney, pastor, journalist, cultural commentator, Abraham Hamilton, III. It really is a privilege to be sitting in for him. And we have a wonderful show and a great guest that you'll meet in a moment. But let me throw out this question. If I were to ask you, what are some of the chronic problems that our nation faces right now, the economy, foreign policy, instability in the Middle East, the open border, the drug crisis, homelessness, rampant crime and lawlessness, and the call to defund the police? I mean, there are a lot of problems, corruption in the government, not following the rule of law, activist level judges that overturn due process. I mean, there are a lot of problems in our nation right now. But I would argue, and I guess that you'll meet in a moment might concur that one of the most dire situations that threatens the very future of the United States of America, if not the souls of individual people, one of the problems with our nation is education. It's often said that the public school system, secular education, is broken.

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    Our guest would argue that no, secular education is actually functioning exactly as it was intended to do. But the intent from people like John Dewey and militant secularists, Margaret Sanger, 20th century globalist revisionist historians and people that want to deconstruct America and remake America as part of a global Marxist enclave. No, the public schools are working exactly as the anti-constitutionalist, anti-God, anti-family. Futurists wanted it to be. They wanted public education to be ideologically driven where people are not really taught truth but programmed ideologically. There is hope though, there is another way and we're going to talk with longtime friend and colleague Colonel E. Ray Moore. He served our country honorably. He's a veteran but for a lot of years really Ray Moore has been at the forefront of calling people to get their children out of public education. And there's a reason that I can speak somewhat passionately about this. I come from a long line of public school teachers who one by one by one, my mother included, got out of public education. I used to routinely speak in public high schools, but once the metal detectors and the armed policemen roaming the halls became a part of public education. Whenever I go to speak at a public school, I never know if there'll be an assembly in my speech or if there'll be fisticuffs and a riot with the cops coming in. And that's happened on two occasions at least. But to help us understand this and maybe to give a glimmer of hope about what we can do in the classroom to save our nation, our guest and friend Ray Moore of Exodus Mandate.

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    Ray, thanks for holding and welcome to the American Family Radio Network. Thank you for having me on again. And it's been a privilege and an honor ready to be working with you I think for 10 to 15 years, maybe 15, I started attending your truthful and new generation conferences. I think when they went Charlotte and Spartanburg and I continued to attend them if they weren't too far from my hometown, I went to one in Murphy's bar years ago and appreciate those and they're very well done. Well, thank you. It's always a privilege and I believe in what you do. And before we go too far along, give us the website of Exodus Mandate and really the synopsis of what your organization does for a little more. The website is x which is a San Diego based ministry and I'm the chairman of the board. I don't run that but I represent them and speak with them as well and they are very much like Exodus mandate but have a bigger staff and right now a bigger outreach than Exodus mandate but we're sort of partner with them. So those are the two web pages Exodus mandate.org and publicschoolexit.com. So appreciate your audience looking those up. We started in 1997 calling on the churches, pastors, and Christians to pull their children out of the government schools in preference of private Christian and home schooling. And it wasn't very well received in 1997. Many Christians still somehow naively they thought they could fix public education.

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    They recognized it was struggling and having problems and they thought it could be redeemed. Well, our position has always been, that's not really broken. It's a socialistic model, started by socialists and unitarians in the 1840s with Horace Mann and then more recently Dewey, John Dewey, who was a humanist and a socialist around 1900. And those are the fathers of public education. They allowed Christians to participate and there was sort of a level playing field where they were allowed to participate and speak up as late as 1962 and 63. I finished high school in 1961 and we still had chapel once a month in a public school in prayer and bubble reading at home room every day. And this was a public school. But that changed in 1962 and 63 with a famous Supreme Court decision. But we really started off bad. It was not a biblicat constituted model, but it tolerated Christianity. Now it's not tolerated at all. Ray, would you believe, OK, I grew up in rural North Carolina. And I went to first through 12th grade. I was in public school, Pleasant Garden Elementary School, little community called Pleasant Garden. All right, it's, I don't know, 72, 73, 74, the early 1970s, and I was in elementary school. Okay, we would have a Christmas concert, and I can always remember all the kids were taken into the auditorium and we rehearsed, and we sang jingle bells and White Christmas, but we sang Silent Night, Hark the Hero Angels sing, And Colonel Moore at Pleasant Garden Elementary School, I was Joseph in the major scene, reenactment.

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    This is a public school, Guilford County Public Schools. But then when I was in high school, Southeast Guilford High School, now I graduated high school, Ray, in 1982. But I was in Glee Club, and we would always do a Christmas concert, not a holiday concert, a Christmas concert. And we always, Judy Thompson was our choir teacher. And we always, now get this, she would invite everybody on stage if you were an alumnus to join in the annual singing of the Hallelujah Chorus. And there was the band and I'm sure as high school students it probably wasn't great. But here's my question for you, Ray. If elementary schoolers today were singing Silent Night and having Mary Joseph in the major scene, and we did in our public elementary school, if high schoolers were singing, you know, a heart-beheral angels sing, it came upon a midnight clear, and then ending out the fall term with a resounding finale of Handel's Hallelujah Chorus. I mean, it would be a new era for attorneys everywhere, wouldn't it? I mean, could you imagine? But that was the school, I went to public school and up until sixth grade, I'm telling you the truth, but it's not this way now. I remember we would line up to go to the cafeteria and my teachers, Ms. Finch, Ms. Satterfield, she would call on one of the students to say the blessing before we marched single file down of the cafeteria to eat lunch. It was a different day, wasn't it, Ray? Right, and it's up. We're never going back to those days. And Christians have got to be living in a real world. They've got to give up the silly idea that they can fix the public schools.

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    It's time to get out and get into homeschooling or Christian schooling. It's time for pastors to step up and be the men of God that they're supposed to be and start Christian schools in their churches. This is an old statistic, and I have a check in the last few years, and I know it's really improved since three or four years ago, but four years ago, there were only 750 Christian schools in Southern Baptist churches nationally. And this is about 45,000 to 47,000 Southern Baptist churches. And if there were 5,000 Christians coove among those churches, that would be an embarrassment. So Christians and pastors have just been so slow to get this. And they don't really understand what's happened to the children and their churches. And it's time to get out and quit the silly idea that you can fix what's not broken. It's a model, it's a socialistic model. And it works well for the devil and for socialism. and you can't fix socialism. So quit trying Christian and give that up and get out and get into homeschooling and Christian schooling. Did you know David Noble of Summit Ministries? Yeah, I know him well. I haven't been in contact with him for three or four years of so since he retired and I do know his success of Jeff Myers as well. Yeah. Dr. David Noble, a longtime friend of, oh, I don't know, 25 years, but he famously wrote a book called Understanding the Times. Sometimes in biblical worldview circles, that book is referred to as UTT, Understanding the Times. But he also wrote another book called You Can Always Count on Communists to be Communist. He gave me a copy of that book like I don't know 15, 16 years ago Ray and I was thinking okay what's interesting let me let me share this with you as well it was 2004 I was at focus on the family working for James Dobson helping start the apologetics program with focus on the family working on a thing with Dr. Del Tackett called the Truth Project that was a great resource but we had a round table and And around this group, and we did seven radio shows with James Dobson, and folks you've got to understand, there was a day Dr. James Dobson was just huge.

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    I mean, he's great. He's pretty much retired. But Ray, you'll remember those days when Dr. Dobson was just huge. But think about this, folks, and then Ray, I'll get your response. We're sitting around, it's me, Josh McDowell, Lee Strobel, Ravi Zacharias, John Ankerberg, a lot of great leaders. And we're talking about world view, the battle for the culture. This is 20 years ago. And David Noble, he piped up and he said, well, the real threat, atheism is bad, Islam is bad, but he said the real threat is Marxism and communism. And everybody kind of look like, what? But my goodness, he's right. I mean, this was years before AOC, this is years before guaranteed public wage, just for living. When we come back, Ray Moore of Exodus mandate, frontline ministries, I wanna talk about how the schools have been grooming several generations of young people for socialism. David Noble predicted it, saw it coming. It's here, may God grant that it's held back, held at bay. Ray, before we pull out for a commercial, what is your website, brother? ExodusMandate.org. And they can contact me there for literature, information, and the email is ExodusMandate.gmail.com. so they can write for the samples of our materials. Since stay tuned folks, we've got a brief break. Alex McFarland here, more on the American Family Radio Network after this. This June marks two years since the overturn of Roe versus Wade, but did you know that the number of abortions actually increased the following year?

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    Well thanks. Yeah, before the break I was talking about 20 years ago we were doing a program with Focus on the Family. I worked with James Dobson for a total of eight years. But David Noble said that looming on the horizon, because we were first doing some radio, you know, a couple of years after 9-11 and Islam was much in the news and that is still a problem because that's incompatible with a pluralistic Judeo-Christian Republic. But David Noble said, watch out, socialism is the juggernaut on the horizon and the public school, K through 12 public school classrooms are the indoctrination points for Marxism. He was very prescient, very prophetic, and I'm sad to say I think he was right. Right, and again, I remember that era that you were talking about, I think that was about 20 years ago. Yeah. And when they're mad and I want to give a little segue, I don't want to sound negative again, but I need to let your audience know this. I'm really grateful for Dr. Dobson in 2017. He had me on his family talk show for two days, and then it went so well. It was March of 2017. He replayed my program in December of 2017. That was a big breakthrough for us, before it's getting a denting. But really, when they did the Truth Project, and I'm a little inside baseball on that, Dell Tackett did a wonderful job, but it was looking at the Christian worldview on all the big issues it faces, abortion, marriage, family, you know, I can't remember. I've looked at it, but it's been a long time. They did not include a section on Christian worldview on education, which would have been our agenda and they consulted with a close personal friend of mine, Dan Smithwick, who created the Pierce test, which is a world view test and they brought him to Colorado Springs to evaluate the movie and see if it was accurate on Christian worldview.

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    He said indeed it was, but he asked, why did you leave out education? You should have a worldview on education. Deltakett told him it was too controversial and they had so many public school people that financially supported, focused on the family, they just didn't want to upset them. I mean, he told him that. So I mean, you know, we can't win when we have that kind of thinking going on among our top Christian leaders and they've been slow. The top leaders have been slow to come around to the ex-husband date position. I've been patient and just waiting on them and now they've come around. They finally wake up to the fact that we've got to do something different on education. We've got to give up this silly idea that we can fix these public schools and we've got to create a whole new apparatus. We don't have to build a school building anywhere in America. There's 100,000 evangelical churches that could start schools overnight. There's about 90,000 public schools in America and about 14,000 school districts. So we could go one for one. And we don't even need to have all the evangelical churches to start schools, but if 25% of them would or third of them, it would create a whole new category. And we're right now on the verge of breaking through where we could take most of the children away from the pagans and the atheists and the socialists and put them in Christian school. So this is not rocket science, it can be done. Well yeah, and let me just say this for one thing, right? I want to commend you because you know, you're a godly gentleman 20 years ago, 25 years ago, When you were kind of this lone voice crying out in the wilderness, the classrooms are the problem, get your kids into homeschool.

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    I've got to be honest with you. You have to know that a lot of people probably wrote you off as just unrealistic. And yet I've known you a long time. You never criticize anybody, but you just kept patiently going on the path that the Lord had called you to. If ever I have to give an illustration about the value of persistence and tenacity, I mean your Exhibit A, Colonel Moore, and people 20 years ago, they were like, oh yeah, right. How since COVID, how many millions of young people thank God are now under education that values God and country since COVID? How many have jettisoned the public classroom, Ray? Well, it's hard to give exact number, but we know among homeschoolers, and that's mostly, that's gonna be mostly Christians, homeschooling, there was about 2.5 million being homeschooled, probably 70% of them, even Jellicle Christians prior to COVID. And now we think it's jumped to about 5 million. So it's doubled in say three or four years. And now it's a fluid situation, it's hard to note exactly. Also with K-12 campus Christian schools, that's exploding as well. I was on a phone call about six months ago with a man in Illinois in the Chicago air. He's a Southern Baptist preacher, retired and evangelist. And he started 10 Christian schools in Illinois in a year, just hopping around from church to church. And he's got a thing called Christian School at a Box. He says, I can give you the box and you can start your school tomorrow. I mean, these things are phenomena that are going on. And we work with a publicschoolexit.com.

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    And we're just seeing enormous things happening. So campus Christian schools are exploding as well. Renew a nation, which you should have on your show, or just being amazing things happen. Foundation for American Christian Education, I think have about 40 schools in a hangle right now that they're trying to get up and going. And so this is a phenomena, and it's not unrealistic to think that we could grow our numbers up to 25, 30%. there's a little bit of uncertainty here if we could get that percentage outside the government school system in the next three to five years we think public school system may collapse and uh... implode and then we'll revert back to the original american model which was private christian home education you know and uh... we'll let me say this there's so much i want to ask you and for those just tuning in this is alex mccfarlane i'm sitting in for a turny and pastor, journalist Abe Hamilton III. This is the Hamilton Corner, and we're talking with Colonel Ray Moore. Ray, let me give you a success story. From 2014 to 2017 for three years, I was interim pastor of a church in North Carolina, a good godly church, but an older congregation. In fact, this church is almost 275 years old, very historic. But two ginormous Sunday school wings that sat vacant all week long. And when I was in a room pastor for three years, I challenged them. I said, you know what you could do? You could start a school. And you ought to start a school. And I really kept throwing that challenge out there. Well, by and by, they got a great young conservative pastor and about four years ago they did start a school, but here's the thing, this school brought in so many families, young families, families with children, the demographic that every church wants to reach.

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    And not only that, literally the money has poured in, because here's the thing folks, money follows vision. Especially when you've got a vision to help not only fulfill the Great Commission but to save our nation. And so they've been adding a grade a year and God has brought people, some people have some expertise and experience, other people have the willingness to learn. But this particular church where I was interim and they eventually did start a school, my wife and I went to church there back at Easter, All right, the sanctuary was packed, probably the most attendance and new members they've had in a generation, but all of the hubbub of, you know, momentum people, resources, and impact and money, it all has orbited around this starting of an overtly Christian, godly, biblical worldview, pro-America school. And the reason I bring that up, Ray, and I want you to comment, because some of these churches out there that are sort of coasting, and you're looking what will be the next chapter of our ministry and impact, starting a school to help save the lives of young people and our nation, starting a school might just be the thing that revitalizes your church. Yeah, absolutely. That old thing loved me, loved my kids. And so the churches that start schools as yours or the happy homeschool co-ops, they will bring in families because people are desperate to get help for their children. And some churches today, sometimes a lot of them just don't have a clue about it. They're in the divorce recovery and drug rehabilitation, but if they were working with the children when they're young, they wouldn't have to have so much drug rehabilitation and divorce recovery and they would raise them up the way they should go and when they get older they'll not depart from it. So the pastors have got to get with the program. Now I'm complaining a little bit about the Southern Babits that I've got a good report. Last year at the Southern Babits annual meeting we have a friend who runs the largest Christian home school magazine in the country, the old schoolhouse magazine. I urge you to have him on the show.

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    old artist the christian program in the country is that all for us yes you're here good uh... paulin genus war is we love those people wonderful godly patreon and their close friends of mine but they were he had a booth and he said we had five people working the booth at the southern baptist annual meeting he said ray we will swarmed by young southern baptist pastors and he said, I couldn't believe it. He said, we were the one of the busiest booths on the floor. And I said, what do you think's going on? Because I couldn't get him to listen to me five years ago. He said, the transgender movement is driving them crazy. And they want to get their kids out. And he said, I hope they keep it up. Yes. So he has changed his, oriented his ministry, and created a wing where he's just going to be working with pastors going forward to the future and I've seen the plan and it is a brilliant plan. So we've got to get the past we've engaged. Yeah and let me just say this Christian friends, we've got to have a long-term vision. I know the Lord is coming back. Jesus is coming. That trumpet might sound today but we are to stay ready and you know if the idea of getting into homeschooling sounds daunting or starting a school or if it just seems too long term and oh I'm too late in the game to start something. Look don't make those excuses and let me explain. Nearly a century ago Antonio Gramsci, who was a Marxist, he challenged his fellow socialist because they said look I will never overtake America because of two things the family and the church. America is too entrenched in Christianity, Christian families, Christian churches, and Gromske challenged his fellow Marxist atheists. He said that we will, quote, make the long march through the institutions, the classroom, the government. Dear, we say even the pulpit. Now, to their credit, they did it. And I guess, Ray, I think about this, heaven forbid that godless Marxist would have more vision and tenacity than the people of God who have prayer, scripture, and the Holy Ghost.

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    I mean, I know it seems like rolling a boulder up a mountain, but why not? We have a mandate from God. It's working now. The Christian education and homeschooling agenda is one of the few areas that conservatives are having success in right now. And I vote, I participate, I even ran for Lieutenant Governor of South Carolina in 2014. So I'm not, I don't want to skew politics, but politics is downstream from culture and culture is downstream from religion. So if we don't fix the religious side and the Christian education side, the politics is gonna continue to go to the pot. Well, when we come back, I'm going to have Ray Moore explain that, that politics is downstream of culture. My friend, the late, great Chuck Colson would say that. He spoke for me many times in our conferences. This is Alex McFarland. My website is AlexMcFarland.com. My speaking schedule is on there. We have six more summer camps. We'll have about 11, well, 1,050 more kids in our summer camps. How's this folks? Imagine hundreds of kids shouting, we are the generation who will restore America. At our camps we say the pledge of allegiance. We talk to kids about Jesus, but we talk to kids about America. Stay tuned more of the same with Ray Moore on AFR. Don't go away. The Skelton Quarter Podcast and One-Minute Common Terrets are available at AFR.net. Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio. Well, Proverbs 22-6. One of my favorite scriptures to share when I'm doing parenting seminars is train up a child in the way that he should go, and when he is old he will not depart from it.

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    And we've all heard the stories of prodigals, and sometimes from the training up of a child to the when he is old he will not depart from it. Sometimes there is a long season of the spiritual wilderness and the wandering, but I've seen it many times. I've heard the stories of many prodigals, but I've also talked with hundreds of families where the prodigal came home. But so much hangs on this formative years of education, not only being in church, but in the classroom as well. And this is Alex McFarland. We're talking with a longtime friend and colleague Ray Moore, who's really kind of been the pioneer of challenging families for the good of the nation for the souls of their children. Ray Moore has been challenging families to extricate the children from what has become basically ideological socialist indoctrination. And we're talking about the public school classroom. Ray, thanks for being with us. You know, as you and I do this program, there's so much in the news about the rights of parents and, oh my goodness, you know, when we do our summer camps, I mean, I cannot give a child a bare aspirin without notifying the parents. And yet in public schools, children, elementary schoolers can be groomed to transition, take hormone replacement therapy, transition, and the parents in many a place legally won't be told. The guidance counselors and teachers are just impacting the life trajectory of children without parents' knowledge. And so one of the incentives for moms and dads to get their kids out of public schools would be just the health and welfare, not only what the kids are being taught, but just their physical bodies being under the tutelage of these transgender activists.

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    I mean, there's every reason, spiritually, culturally, intellectually, there's every reason for adults to be wary of the public school classroom, wouldn't you agree? Yes, and we again, I've said before, we've got to give it up. It can't be fixed because it's not broken. It's successful for socialism. And it was constituted on a improper foundation, even from the very beginning. We take the theological position, we think it's very sound that the education of children belongs to the church and the family, not government. has no God or Dame role to be involved in K-12 education. Now they are involved. They have been for 170 years. They've usurped the role of the family and the church, and we've let them do it. So it's time for us to take it back, quit this silly idea of public school reform because they can't be fixed. That's the very important thing to give up. It's just like salvation. You can't be saved by grace and by works. We know that salvation in Christ is by grace and faith alone, not at work. So if you're trying to work for it, you're not following God's pattern of faith and grace. So we won't Christians to give up the idea, and quit running for school board, it's so utter waste of time, and a lot of people think that'll fix the problem, but it's a reform effort. you can't reform what's not broken. So it's time to get reassert ourselves as the providers of education. And if the church would do that, the pastors would do that, we could take back our responsible, our role as the primary educators of the children in America. And that would perhaps trigger the revival that we're looking for.

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    Well, and you know, one of the things that encourages me, Ray, and I've spoken at many, many, many Christian schools throughout America, and I've spoken that I used to routinely speak at public schools and give a lecture on how we got the Constitution, what does the Constitution mean? And I don't get invited as much as I used to, but, Ray, on two different occasions, I was in public schools to do an assembly and a fight broke out and I didn't even get to speak. One was in California and the other was down in Louisiana. But anyway, a fight broke out. The principal teachers couldn't even bring the school under control and the assembly didn't happen. And then shortly thereafter, I went one to a Christian school conference and then I went to a charter school. It was kind of a private school with a classical education model. And I'm meeting elementary kids. This is true story. That were studying Lincoln Douglas debates. They were studying how to write a bill and take a bill to be legislated. And then this one child comes up about a fifth grader. And this was in Colorado Springs. This was a Colorado classical education meeting. And this child said, Mr. McFarland, my parents listened to you on the radio and you teach Thomas Aquinas and his natural law. And I said to this child, yes. And this child said, I'm learning Latin and I'm translating Aquinas from Latin to English. Now here's my point in sharing this story. On the one hand, I go in public schools, and you're lucky if you get in and out without some kind of fight breaking out. And on the other hand, I go to the Christian School Conferences, the classical education conferences, and elementary kids are doing what elementary kids should be doing.

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    They're being taught to use their mind. And the encouraging point is that these will be the leaders, folks. The kids that learn about God and country, the kids that understand the stewardship of life includes the stewardship of your mind and your skills, your abilities, your influence. Ray, I'm hopeful. And look, I want Jesus to come back today. But until he does return, we have to be vigilant and faithful. And I just believe that sitting in homeschool and Christian school and private classical education, there are upcoming presidents, there are leaders in the making, the doctors, the educators, the patriots. They're being grind. Yes. Luther said if I knew Jesus was coming back to Marr, I'd plant a tree today. I've always liked that sentiment. The scripture says Jesus said, occupied to a like, we don't know when he's going to return, but we should carry on. We shouldn't let the emma soon coming teaching of Christ which is a good teaching that deter us from being responsible for culture and for raising our children and things like that. And a lot of Christians use it as a cop out. Well let me ask you that do you know any websites or resources for the person listening who says okay look I get it. We should get our kids out of the public school. We should you know think about homeschooling or maybe a couple of children right now. you give us a homework assignment okay public school exit dot com is kind of a cafeteria for all the options that you might take you've got to be serious to go there you you might need to spend a couple hours studying it because there's so many good options today and uh... you can do it check out that website and find out some of the opportunities and things you could do either home schooling or campus Christian schools. Probably one of the best programs for actually doing Christian education, in my opinion, is a lot of good models. But I think this is certainly up there, the Lexus or the Cadillac model, is foundation for American Christian education. And I believe that webpage is F-A-C-E dot net. And if you already decided you're going to do it. You could go there and check out they've got curriculum and they've got consultants that will help churches and family groups to start Christian schools. And right now they've got 40 schools in the hangar. They have their top headmaster resigned and he's traveling the country working with churches that are trying to start faith schools and this is the best one it has a strong heavy emphasis on America's Christian heritage, the founding era, the pilgrims and the unique American Christian experiment and their graduates when they graduate from their schools one of their best schools is called Stone Bridge school in Chesapeake, Virginia. Another one is Day Spring, Christian Academy in Lancaster, Pennsylvania. They have them all over the country. They get in the Ivy League schools.

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    They do very well. That's a very top model. And if you know you're going to do it, I would go to F-A-C-E dot net. And then of course public school eggs, it is like a cafeteria of all the different models and uh... and i'm the chairman of the board that uh... or youth may with the uh... wisconsin home educators uh... group yet i know i'm a little bit you know i'm not well but you know so and of course we promote we promote both homeschooling campus christian schools well do you know what uh... in march of twenty twenty four ray i'd the privilege of going up there to speak at the uh... christian home educators of of Wisconsin, C-H-E-W, Christian home educators of Wisconsin. What's really exciting is, and I spoke at their convention, there were 3,800 people there, and that was pretty much adults, and I mean, so it was well over 4,000 people. And they're not that old, I mean, now Christian home education in Wisconsin has been around, I met a guy, he really, in a way, I thought about you because there was an attorney, he was an older gentleman. I think he had been kind of a champion for homeschooling in Wisconsin for a number of years. But just since COVID, this thing has really struck fire. And my goodness, their annual conference, like I say, they were only in their third year of having a conference more than 3,800 people were there. And I want to tell you, I spoke to hundreds easily, I don't know, five, six, seven hundred middle school and high school age kids. Brilliant, brilliant. I could go as deep as I wanted to go. They were tracking with me the families, the grown-ups, churches starting schools. And so, you know, I know we've got a lot of listeners in the Bible Belt.

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    I know we've got a lot of listeners in the upper northwest and Seattle and Portland and Oregon and all that. We've got listeners in the upper northeast say from Richmond and Washington DC up through New England. Ray I just pray that this fire will grow, this movement will expand because yeah we're talking about the future of our nation. I mean there's biblical worldview as input. That's number one of course, but then there's constitutionalism and saving our nation. So we've only got a few minutes left, but help us get a vision for the fact that this is doable. This can happen and we all can be a part of this that can count for eternity. Yes, it's happening right now. I've been slogging it out for 30 years and four years ago, we saw a huge breakthrough with the COVID. It was a silver lining in an otherwise dark moment because it broke people loose and they did look. We got to be home and we're going to stay home. We're not going to go back to those schools. Now, a lot of people did go back, but if I made children at home and suddenly, campus Christian schools are growing extremely fast as well. And even among the Southern Baptists who have been slow, slow to pick this up, and they're picking it up now. So I could see at time, I don't know what the percentage is, it may be 13% that are outside the system, but if we grew up to 25%, we think the system, the public system is so fragile, it doesn't have the support of even many of the people that are there. The politicians may say, I'm praying they will, three to five years, hey, we're going to give it up. We're doing a bad job. The government's not doing a good job. We're going to take the money, the tax money, and pay the roads and pick up the garbage and rest the criminals. And we're going to hand the education of these children back to the churches and families where it was early American history.

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    But when that happens, that'll be the triggering moment that could bring about the revival. Because if the churches and the Christian people will educate the children, we'll have a different citizen and there'll be a different future for America. So that's my message. And let me put my webpage out one more time. ExodusMandate.org and if they want literature or information, contact us at ExodusMandate at gmail.com. Sure, sure. Well, folks, if you are just tuning in to Voice You're Hearing As Colonel Ray Moore, we're talking about homeschooling, classical education, private schooling, because really it does impact the future of our country, what children are being taught. This is Alex McFarland. Thanks for listening. My website, AlexMcFarlane.com. In the meantime, pray for America. Tell somebody about AFR, but tell everybody about Jesus. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.

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