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0:00 - 15:00. 2 Samuel 11:1-2. Are you where you’re supposed to be? 15:00 - 31:00. What is Project 2025? 31:00 - 48:00. President Trump functioned as expected at the NABJ Convention. To donate call : 877-616-2396 D'Arbonne Church of Christ's Family Conference August 9 - 11 in Farmerville, LA 1148 Sterlington Highway, Famerville, LA 71241 Video Clip Links Mindy Kaling & Kamala Harris Trump’s interview with the National Association of Black Journalists

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    Darkness is not an affirmative force. It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light. This is the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio. It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite. Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media. And the philosophies of this world. God has called you and me to be His ambassador. Even in this dark moment. Let's not miss our moment. And now, the Hamilton Corner. Good evening, everybody. Welcome to the Hamilton Corner here on American Family Radio. I am your host, Abraham Hamilton, III. Joined by the corner contingent today right across from me, producer extraordinaire. He's made the bold move to step out of the shadows of the screening room. He's taking the risk to be in the line of sight and in the line of fire. It's a real Jay Mac, ladies and gentlemen, produced extraordinary often imitated but never ever ever ever ever duplicated and in the screening room today we are graced with the presence of the ever lean and mean and always pristine you know his name is cold green ladies and gentlemen yes indeed he is in the screening room helping us bring to you the broadcast video component of the program but you can see this face often shiny and greasy before head. Heh. Ain't too greasy today though. Ain't too greasy today. The cold is like, man this man is ripping himself. Yes. Boy, head is greasy at times. Cold, what do you want me to do about it? That is where it is. The little game you skin that's a little oily. Heh. Well, we're ready to rock and roll with today's edition of the program. So much is happening. Oh man, in the world, I know there's a lot of other headlines domestically, but a major, major, major strike by Israel was conducted in multiple places the exact same time. You had the this just by way of announcement, we'll talk about this later. The program goes on, but you have the Hamas leader Ismail Hania, who was terminated in Tehran inside of Iran's capital yesterday at the same time within a two hour span in Lebanon, Lebanon, Hezbollah, commander, Fuad Shukar was also terminated.

  2. 2:30

    Israel has not taken credit for it publicly, but reports indicate this is at Israel's execution in fulfilling what Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said that he is seeking to root out and destroy Hamas. You also have an Iranian Revolutionary Guard leader who was struck inside of Syria. So you have this happening, particularly the Ismael Hania and Fuhad Shakur within the matter of hours in separate places is interesting that it happened. Nevertheless, at this very moment, many of you, that most of you are making your transition from your part-time jobs where you generate an income to your full-time jobs where you cultivate an outcome. And as you do so, I want to encourage you to do so with intentionality, with an urgency, with a fervor, with an understanding of the times that we are in, Lord, guys ready and not, we are here. We are here. We are living in Bible days, the things we read about, we are living in them. You look at what's happening in Venezuela, which if we do not change course, Venezuela is instructive as to where America is going. We have the opportunity to change course, but we must change course. And when I'm saying change course, I'm not just talking about a willful political, socio-political action. I'm talking about a course change, that is the byproduct of repentance. We need to understand. You remember this song? Ain't no mountain high enough. Listen, ain't no country big enough to hop box with God. Ain't no country wide enough. If we as a nation are intent on pursuing the course of rebellion, we will eat the rotten fruit of that rebellion.

  3. 4:35

    The way to turn that is by appealing to the hearts and minds of the citizenry, anchored by the proclamation of the gospel, making disciples. People say, oh, America's changed. No, no, no, no. America has not changed. The people in America. America is not this disembodied entity. America is comprised of people. The preferences, the ideas, the values, the priorities of the American people have run far field from what God would have us to be as a people, as a nation. The only way to reverse course is through repentance. So as you make your transition today, make it your business, that your home will be an altar of incense, a modern altar of incense to where the presence of the Lord is not only acknowledged where the Lord is glorified, where we worship Him in our homes, where the gospel is proclaimed in our homes. And we commit ourselves to the disciple making mandate starting right in our homes. And then we work outwardly from there. We need to add to our commitment to worshiping with our families a time to will we do or knock our own neighborhoods, invite our neighbors over, spend time with them in one heart, one mind at a time. We do the will of our Lord. To the word of God, we go 2 Samuel chapter 11. Second Samuel chapter 11 is where I want to go. This is a very infamous passage of scripture where details David taking Bathsheba, the Hebrew word indicates that, taking Bathsheba. But There are things that transpire prior to that, that if we're not careful, we could speed by them and miss some of the warnings that God has given us in his word.

  4. 6:43

    The word of God is filled with prescriptive, I'm sorry, prescriptive things, meaning things that God has prescribed for all men to emulate, to internalize and to replicate. There are also things that God has included in his word that are just descriptive. He's just illustrating what has happened. He's not saying you need to repeat this. In fact, he illustrates it so that you do not repeat it. There are illustrative warnings that are included there. We must be wise in understanding a proper division and right division of the Lord's word to understand which is which and what is what. Second Samuel chapter 10 begins with an ominous, ominous transition point in the story of David as king of the unified nation of Israel. I would remind you that when Samuel warned the Israelites against getting a king, one of the things that he warned them, and this is in first Sammy chapter eight, I'm not gonna read that, I'm just gonna refer to it. First Sammy chapter eight verse 20, one of the things that the people said is that we want our king to go before us in battle. So one of the things they wanted a king, like all the other nations, is that the king would be the chief warrior, yay. Then we come to second Sammy chapter 11, and this is how the passage begins. But then it happened in the spring. At the time when kings go out to battle, that David sent Joe Abman as servants with him in all Israel. And they destroyed the sons of Ammon and Beseed Raba. But David stayed at Jerusalem. Verse two, now when evening came, David arose from his bed and walked around on the roof of the king's house. And from the roof he saw a woman bathing and the woman was very beautiful in appearance. two seminal portions of the text that should be like, a-ing, warning, warning, warning, warning, to us as we read through.

  5. 8:47

    First, then it happened in the spring, letting us know the time of year, at the time when kings go out to battle. So this is something that had to become customary, of all kinds of things, typography, weather, and other things that are happening. We could talk about that another time, because a lot of those details are not purnt the conversation we're having now. At the time, Kings are supposed to go out to battle. David, who arose to the monarchy as what is the backdrop, him being a warrior, slaying Goliath. Songs historically were saying about David. Saul is laying his thousands. David is tens of thousands. You get all of this. David was a skilled military strategist, a skilled warrior, valiant, courageous. He had a disjuncture in his tenure as the king of Israel. He didn't see it necessary to be what kings are supposed to be. So David stayed at Jerusalem. That's indication number one. The king is not what he's supposed to be. People being out of pocket, people not being where they're supposed to be, supposed to be that not only apply to the so-called unknown. It happens with kings. It happens with rulers. happens with leaders. The word of God is conveying to us here is a man whom has whom God is entrusted as the head of his nation, yet he is so consumed in himself that he is out of order. The next indication, it's an intensifying of this disorder. King's supposed to be at war, David ain't at war. King's supposed to be in battle, David ain't gone, he's send his servers, let them handle it. The next thing now when evening came David a row from his bed now this this ain't 21st century This is not some you know some Gen Z millennial Gen X or playing video games all night in their mama's basement Waking up afternoon. This is The king who's supposed to be a feature of diligence who supposed to be a leader of the Lord's people But he is arising from his bed in the evening day is far spent and when you consider the fact that the way that affairs were conducted in Israel, it was evening and there was morning and that was the first day just as the Bible says, usually people awakened close to daybreak, even not earlier, because all of the things they had to do, there was no electrical grid, anything that nature didn't do much official business, if you will, in the evening times.

  6. 11:47

    So daylight had to be the time when you took care of things. But the scriptures revealing that David is getting out of his bed at evening time. These are two seminal and intensifying warnings to let you know danger, danger, danger, Will Robinson, what's going to transpire hereafter is not very good. This is one of those opportunities for us to have a word of God inspired checkup. Are you where you're supposed to be? Am I where I'm supposed to be? Are you where you're supposed to be when you're supposed to be there? Or are our lives disordered? Are we a people who say these are our priorities? But when you look at our schedules, you look at our calendars, the things that we profess to be priority, is that reflected in the way that we utilize our time? See what sometimes we fail to understand is the proverb writer told us that sin grows as a man travels one step at a time. Sometimes the chaos that is revealed in life isn't the product of something that is transpired just now. Sometimes it's the product of something that is transpired long ago and little by little. We'll out something, a little fly in the ointment and a little sleep, a little slumber, a little folding of the hands to rest. And then then as a year's transpire, You have the public calamity, the public collapse, the public failing. When all along the Lord was saying, no, no, no, it's time to get up.

  7. 13:54

    It's time to make the adjustment. What I'm saying, that we need to be very diligent to refuse to allow what may be described as passive instances of negligence to be formational for us, to where our lives are shaped by that characterized by that. We should as much it has to do with us, endeavor, strive to be where we're supposed to be when we're supposed. This is why I tried to daily remind us to refuse to allow the headlines and the news media to divert our focus, to divert our attention, to make their priorities, our priorities, but to recalibrate ourselves according to the Lord's word. Where are we supposed to be? When are we supposed to be? What are we supposed to be about? So next thing you know, another five years have passed by, another seven years have passed by, another ten years have passed by and we'll be saying, ahh. I knew I shouldn't have been there. You've heard a lot about saving babies on this show. That's because it's important to me personally. And let me just be frank with you. We need to save them. That's why we've partnered with Preborn, the nation's leader in introducing mothers with unplanned pregnancies to their babies. And once she hears that heartbeat and sees that precious life growing inside of her, she is twice as likely to choose life. Now that's a miracle. But quite honestly, if we don't save them, who will? Preborn receives no government funding so their work is completely dependent on us. Preborn has rescued over 280,000 babies, and that's not all. They provide love, support, and counseling for up to two years for free, saving lives and souls. One ultrasound is just $28 or $140 helps to rescue five babies' lives. Abortion doesn't stop, so we can't. Together, you and I can save lives. Just dial pound250 on your cell and say the keyword baby.

  8. 15:58

    That's 250 baby or go to preborn.com. That's preborn.com. Shiting light into the darkness. This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio. Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here. Man, next week. Yeah, this will be next week. We will be in Farmerville, Louisiana at the Darbonne, say it properly, Church of Christ for three days, August 9th, 10th and 11th. That'll be the last trip for a while, for sure, I know until December. I am so looking forward to my North Louisiana folks. And I was told that I can tell you if you're in the area, you are welcome to join us for the services. It'll be 7 p.m. on Friday evening, August 9th, 7 p.m. August 10th, Saturday evening. And then it'll be two services on Sunday, 11 a.m. and then 1 p.m. seating is limited, however. So if you would like to be a part of that, if you're in the area, if you'd like to come to the area. You are welcome to do so, but I would encourage you to get there early if you want to have a seat. All right. I'm going to do something now. Several people have asked me about it, whether I was going to talk about it, whether I had discussed it and have not discussed this in detail yet for a number of reasons, but I'm going to do it now. And what am I talking about? I want to talk about Project 2025. A lot of people have asked what is Project 2025? You help me understand what it is and It is a worthwhile discussion and I know it became a media Phenomenal recently and I know former president Trump has especially lately been bold in his Protestations and his attempts to distance himself from Project 2025 because the media is trying to say This is the Trump plan. This is the Trump plan. So let me explain what it is. First of all, let me just tell you that this is nothing more, nothing more than a fear-mongering effort by regressive in our country. They've just been able to adopt a new a screed for their efforts to try to scare people.

  9. 18:32

    Most of the people we've been talking about don't have a clue what it is. The second thing thing I need you to know is that Project 2025 is nothing more than a presidential transition plan. All right. It's an administration transition plan. So a couple of things. Let me take a few steps back. Remember when former, and let me just say this too, that the regressors that are attempting to fear manga were Project 2025 is so, so hypocritical because it's nothing different than what Democrats have done. It's no different than what former President Barack Obama did when he took office in 2008. And so let me explain it to you. So remember when former President Trump ran for the presidency came down to that escalator in Trump Tower, much to the shock and surprise of regressive the world over, including in our own country. She who shall never be president in spite of all of the predictions, in spite of all of the polls, in spite of all of, you You know, Mr. Hussein himself, like this most qualified woman, who ever it was, most qualified person ever for the presidency, you know. She lost. You know, let me just pause. I have to just thank, celebrate and thank the Lord God almighty that I never have to declare to you, shall I never be president has ever been president. Yep, never been president. And it's interesting. Nobody, nobody called her an election denier, even though she wrote a book. But I didn't win around talking about former president Trump is an illegitimate president and the rest of the illusion and all that kind of stuff now Remember what was president Trump's major campaign? Promise I won't say promise major campaign slogan and what he intended to do when he took office Remember do you remember who it was?

  10. 20:32

    Drain the swamp remember gonna drain the swamp. What a drain the swamp. We're gonna drain the swamp But what ended up happening? Did former president Trump drain the swamp? No, in fact, the swamp fought back big time. A lot of you, a lot of Americans are at home wondering, okay, now what happened? How was it able to happen? Because I am grateful for former president Trump's term in 2016, and frankly, I hope he wins in 2024. But much of what he accomplished was only accomplished at the executive level via executive order. There were a few things, very minimally, yeah, tax cut that happened, policy-wise. Most of his accomplishments, accomplishments, however, were solely at the executive branch. So why did that happen? You may recall that when I say the swamp fought back against former President Trump, what were the mechanisms of the swamp fighting back? Remember my wires were tapped. Who tapped the wires? Who filed the false FISA affidavit before the FISA court to get the illegally secured wire taps, right? Who did this? Who were the people working within the various apparatus and various administrations? And sorry, within the federal apparatus, that was working against former President Trump. What you need to understand, and this should be the overarching tagline for this portion of the show today, all right? campaigning versus governing. All right, campaigning versus governing.

  11. 22:34

    It is one thing to be an effective campaigner, but just because one might have had an effective campaign does not mean that the campaigner is prepared to govern. All right, one of the fundamental realities guys is that as much as former President Trump proclaimed his intention to drain the swamp. Remember, drain the swamp, build the wall. All of these things he planned to do, but the swamp fought him tooth and nail every step of the way. It is because former President Trump campaigned but did not have a plan to govern. And when I say a plan to govern, I mean specifically two primary components. Policy articulation with three primary components. Policy articulation, meaning explaining the policy prerogatives you want to accomplish. Secondarily, policy implementation. How will you implement the ideas you have to implement? Thirdly, personnel for policy execution. Those three components are indispensable. All right? What happened when former President Trump took office, he took office governed by bureaucrats, alphabet agencies and deep state in the shadows, operatives who had been installed there during the Obama years. A lot of us know some of the more famous Peter Stroke and all these other people who behind the scenes working for the federal government, working in the executive branch of the federal apparatus, who are literally working against former President Trump at every step of the way. You had them working against him within the bureaucracy, you had forces outside working against him.

  12. 24:35

    You had the whole Russian collusion, delusion scandal that that is well known within DC that it was a fraud from the very beginning, but they still ran with it because they just to be frank about this, they outmaneuvered President Trump within the government to apparatus. Enter 2021. All right. After the election season of 2020, You had individuals and this was led by the Heritage Foundation, which is a conservative organization and think tank in Washington, DC. All right. It led an effort to say should the Lord allow another Republican president to be elected, this time around will be more prepared for the deep state. Now let me take a few steps back to 2008 because guess who did this first? former President Barack Obama. When Barack Obama took office, he was intentional about making sure he filled every available spot within the federal apparatus. And if there was no spots, he sought to expand the federal apparatus with people who shared his regressive insidious, and I would just say frankly, wicked worldview. He had them enter the federal bureaucracy at low levels. And if you know anything about government, employment, government service, not always, but generally speaking, one of the ways you arise to positions of influence and authority is over time. So if you think about people who entered the federal bureaucracy in 2008, that process was expedited exponentially between the years of 2011 and 2013, guess where they are by the time former President Trump comes around. And so if you have no plan to have your own people that you've vetted, that the organization that you've built, that you've installed to take these positions, guess what you're going to be doing?

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    You and me spending all of your time working against the very people who are supposed to be working for you. So in 2021, Heritage Foundation led the effort over a hundred conservative organizations worked alongside the Heritage Foundation. This was not something started by former President Trump. This was started by the Heritage Foundation. And yes, and as Paula was saying, once they get in, and this is why the efforts using the civil service other things are so hard once they get in to get them removed because unfortunately we very often have a Democrat party who government is their god. So they often are playing chess because the end all be all for them is government. You have a potent campaign through 2016 before President Trump, but day one, was he ready to govern? And when I say govern, I'm not just talking about policy articulation things you want to accomplish. I think he was clear on policy articulation. I think where there were failings were policy implementation and personnel for policy execution. Those are the two additional rails that led to what I call the governmental rope-a-dope put on former President Trump. So 2021 occurs and the process begins. So the project 2025 consists of four major components. First component is policy. 922 pages of policy recommendations. None of them have to be adopted by anybody. These are just suggestions. These are recommendations. Any presidential candidate can review them, except some rejects them. 922 pages worth. Most of the people were talking about this stuff. They haven't even read any of it. Secondarily, and remember this day is back to 2021 is when this started. and this is what I just talked to you about. Personnel, the process started in 2021 to identify and vet people who could help implement a conservative, constitutionally conservative agenda through the federal apparatus, infiltrate the apparatus to destroy the apparatus.

  14. 28:59

    I'm not destroyed, but to get it to function within its constitutional limitations. All right. So there was a process of resume accumulation, vetting potential candidates for potential particular roles. So that on day one, you're ready not to re-rope-edope again. Thirdly, you have the training component again to have day one ready personnel. And then the fourth component is a 180 day playbook for the first 180 days in office. These are the things we seek to accomplish. None of this is new to politics, folks. None of this is new to politics. So the fear mongering around Project 2025, it literally is just insanity. Because if you are running for office, any office, whether it be dog catcher school board, president of your local parent teacher association, city council member, state senate, whatever office, don't you think you should be ready to do the job? If you're elected, don't you think you should be prepared? And if you are going to be the head of an operation where there are over 8,000 federal governmental offices that you're in charge of, And more. Don't you think you need to be ready? Don't you think you just had an experience from, I don't know, 2016, where you were rope-edoped by the deep state that if you get another chance, that you probably want to avoid being rope-edoped the second time, that's what it is. That's what it is. So the fear monger is surrounded and just insane. Now I understand because this project started long before. Like I told you, starting in 2021, President Trump wasn't a nominee there. So when he says, this wasn't something I created, he's right, he didn't create it. He didn't create, he's right about that. But where there's a problem is when he goes so far, where now he's going to try to ingratiate himself to Regressive's in our country by Slammy Project 25, and the hundreds of Christian organizations, the over 100 Christian conservative organizations, and includes Christian organizations that help participate in it.

  15. 31:18

    You're compounding the error from the platform issue where you're telling significant components of your 2016 electoral coalition, well, I don't care about you, I wanna ingress your myself to these regressives because I know that I'm gonna get, let me just ask you this way, how many Democrat and independent voters you think President Trump is winning by saying, oh, I have nothing to do with Project 2025. You think that's gonna make them come your way? So naive. And I understand he has his agenda, I'm sorry, agenda 47, being the coming of 47 President of the United States. What do you think that's gonna include? Has the MAGA movement in former President Trump built infrastructure, vetted candidates to fill the federal government to apparatus? Has he identified people that would be able to implement his vision at the expansive state? Having developed it across the last four years? Has he done that? No. So even if he wins, guess what the real possibility is with his distancing himself from Project 2025? Even if he wins, he's putting a vessel of self in a position where he's estranged from those who would wanna help him to implement his agenda, to be left with the very regressives he said he wants to drain the swamp of, to be left with them to fill and to continue operating in the circumstances, which is why one of the things I was greatly concerned about is that they know if they have the rope adobe them again, they only have to try to endure them for the next two and a half years. Because at year three, it's usually beginning ramping up campaigning again, which is why this is a foolish, Foolish public move. Hamilton Quarter podcast and one-minute common terrors are available at AFR.net. Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio.

  16. 33:19

    Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here. And so in discussing this Project 2025 thing, I want you all to think about a couple things, right? Keep in mind what I said to you that this Project 2025 started in 2021. Okay. This isn't something that just developed. It started in 2021. So the question you should ask yourself in the question that former President Trump needs to ask himself is that if this started in 2021, why am I just hearing about it now and then? Why am I hearing about it now in the media? This isn't something that's been a secret. This, it started in 2021. Why is it happening? because progressives in their most enduring propagandist, assistant, the talking snake media, has decided, I would say, in desperation, that we need to lob all bullets we have at the time. You know, 2025 came to national conversational prominence as the Democrats are trying to decide, oh, Joe Biden, no Joe Biden, no Joe Biden, no Joe Biden, That's when that became a popular conversation topic. When the media was attempting to deflect attention away from the fact that we've had a weekend at Bernie's president in the Oval Office for the last three and a half years and everybody knew it. Deflect attention away from the fact that what everybody witnessed on June 27th is what everybody knew what was going on for the last three plus years. But they threw that out there to see, well maybe we can get this to grow some layers to grab some attention. And because you have strange things in it, like protecting the family, protecting the fact that marriage consists of one man and one woman seeking to incentivize, to incentivize and protect family structure.

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    Heh heh heh heh heh heh. It's amazing. It's just amazing. It's amazing. But what's happened instead of, instead of simply fielding a question, and I agree, I think there's some tactical missteps that transpired. I think there could have been more conversation behind the scenes with the direct appeal to, you know, former President Trump to if you wanted to get him to sign on or not, or if not, don't present it as if this is something he's doing, present it as something that this is an idea that you would like to see happen and do it independently. But regardless of that, Mr. Trump is not going to strengthen his electoral prospects by trying to make himself, yeah, I'm just, I'm, I'm Democrat like, it's just not going to work. This is not gonna work and in the process is foolish to continue to continue to Put your finger in the eye of people who supported you by and large in the past And it's how you basically to declare By your public statements and your campaigning that we don't we don't we don't care about these voters anymore We don't need them anymore. So when asked about this, I know I've been known to give free advice. Oh Oh, Mr. Trump had to say was, well, I didn't create Project 2025. I am running for the presidency. And it is my intention that I'll do win the presidency, but govern in such a way to what we make America great again. In that process, it is also my intention to take counsel to get insight from people from all many different sectors. And if there are things that are consistent with the agenda that we have for the country, then we'll consider them. There are things that are inconsistent with our agenda for the country.

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    We'll reject them, but it's always wise to get counsel from trustworthy sources. Come on. You can say very easily project 2025 is not my policy. Parrogative. The vetting process and things that have not something we started. But if they are people in America, our movement is to make America great again. The way that America is made great again is because of America's great people. the people of America are made front and center in America. America is on a better posture than it is now when those radical elites in DC and those radical leftists have no interest in democracy. You pivot at that moment as demonstrated by their willingness to toss off their incumbent candidate and just install someone else. They have no interest in actually engaging with the American people. It's not like that over here. And this is why our movement is to make America great again. It's bigger than any individual. It's bigger than any political party. It is moving America in the direction to where the greatest nation and the greatest experiment in individual liberty in the history of the world is refitted to endure so that my grandchildren and great-grandchildren have a better future than my wildest imagination. That's all you have to do. But no, my concern, and this is not all criticism, I'm gonna say some positive about pressure coming in a minute, but this is some criticism. My concern is that his his inclinations his leanings are leftist His inklet his leanings are he takes it's important to him what the New York Times says. It's important to him What the lion media says it's important to him. So his immediate reflexive Responses all I don't know I have nothing to do I had to get him out of here destroy them Without any consideration whatsoever. I mean he can literally say you know with a heritage organization is a think tank. This is what they do.

  19. 39:31

    They develop ideas. Sometimes they have good ideas. Sometimes the ideas may not be so good. But one thing that is for certain, what we all know is bad is a swamp. And you pay for it, you address it. Done. That way you communicate the fact that it's not my plan. So any effort to get asked me questions about this policy, I simply say it's not my plan. Go and talk to them. And at the exact time, you refuse to slap in the face hundreds of conservative organizations whose constituencies have supported him in the past. And you simply say things that work, things that are good, that's what we want, things that don't work, things that are bad, we don't want that. And you keep it moving. That's what it is. But again, it's because, I'm a President Trump in the MAGA movement, campaigning is their thing. Governing is not. But the sad reality is that should you win, you're going to have to govern. So this is why it's so hypocritical. Where is he going to turn when it's time to govern? Because he has not done this work. You cannot do this in 20 days. I know you like to talk about it. I can build bridges. I can build these things real quick. You cannot fit out the federal apparatus with the endeavor to drain the swamp and to have trusted people who you have vetted. You can't do that in 12 minutes. So he's taking something that could have been an asset to him. It could have been a strength for him and he's allowed it to become something to weaken him to a degree. That's what it is. So I'm sharing this mainly for you so that you'll be able to explain. Prodigy 2025 was just its preparation for transition. It didn't start with Trump. It started before his, even before it was clear that he would be the Republican nominee.

  20. 41:33

    And it's the response to witnessing the deep state outmaneuver him during his initial tournament office. To try to prevent that from being repeated should another Republican take office after Mr. Robinette. Now, conversely, this is where I think President Trump's instincts are good. Today, he appeared from a President Trump at the National Association of Black Journalists Convention or their conference. It's interesting. You have lots of people to say lots of things. I think it's important and I think it's wise to go where people don't expect you to go, you know, unless, let me say that better. If you have a plan that you can execute with message discipline, I think it's wise. If you don't have a plan that you can execute with message discipline. I think it's improvement. Nevertheless, one of the things that lots of American people like is that Mr. Trump has the tendency to be himself wherever he goes. And so appearing at the National Association of the Black Journalists Convention today, he started this interview off with a bang. Right out of the gate, he was asked a question whether or not he believed Kamala Harris was a DEI or as a vice president, listen to how he responded, some of his response, it's clip number two. Go. You have to define it. Define it for me if you will. I just defined it, sir. Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman? Well, I can say, no, I think it's maybe a little bit different. So I've known her a long time indirectly, not directly, very much, and she was always of Indian heritage and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black and now she wants to be known as black. So I don't know, is she Indian or is she black?

  21. 43:34

    She is always, I don't know why. But you know what? I respect either one. I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't. I'm going to play it one more time. Go. Why not? You have to define it. Define it for me if you want. I just defined it, sir. Do you believe that Vice President Kamala Harris is only on the ticket because she is a black woman? Well, I can say, no, I think it's maybe a little bit different. So I've known her a long time indirectly, not directly, very much. And she was always of Indian heritage, and she was only promoting Indian heritage. I didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. And now she wants to be known as black. So I don't know, is she Indian or is she black? She is always. I know the black. I respect either one. I respect either one, but she obviously doesn't. So that was a large part, went out of large part, but that's the way the interview started. You know, the whole interview was about 37 minutes long. Mr. Trump explained that he took a little bit of ire at the fact that he was told that he would appear at the convention opposite his opponent in the presidential race. And he said whether it be Joe Biden or Kamala Harris, but he found out that neither of them would show up when he showed up, which I thought is interesting. And he was told that he couldn't participate in the convention via zoom, but Kamala Harris may be able to participate via zoom. So he mentioned that. But throughout the thing, I don't think there was a, and I got a good question I want to get to, I want to get to. I don't think there was necessarily a major fumble. He didn't say anything at the NABJ appearance that he hadn't said publicly before. And his appearance basically consisted of him basically being classic Trump.

  22. 45:37

    Now the thing that I think is a positive takeaway for him and a positive indication is that I think people at the convention, but his presence there really wasn't for the people at the convention. It's for the citizens. It's like, it's the old attitude. You have the opportunity to have a public debate. Like, you know, if you have a Christian publicly debating an atheist, the focus of the debate is actually the audience, not the debate opponent, you know? And so there are lots of people who, in watching that appearance at the convention, first of all, show that he's willing to go into what could rightly be described as an environment that will be hostile toward him, that you could expect to be hostile toward him. Yet he remained consistent with what he always is. And so you have, this is way I would describe President Trump, I think his instincts in terms of connecting with people in some ways are good. But I think his execution is not always good. The net takeaway in my view from his appearance at the NABJ conference is positive for him. Because lots of people, who's amazed, in the coming and say this to your face. And you know, and the point about Kamala Harris, you know, I can show you another clip out while running the other one real quick. I don't, I want to get to this question. She has historically described herself as Indian, you know, that's just the truth. But I think the most effective route for him is to get to the policy distinctions, like, and make sure you connect Kamala Harris to everything that has transpired from the previous administration. Most importantly, I think, because we're talking about campaigning for campaigning purposes, most importantly, connect her to the fact that she knew what Mr. Biden was like behind the scenes in the White House. And she said and did nothing. She is the person solely with the constitutional authority under the 25th Amendment. She knew what Mr. Biden was. And she said nothing. Now, one question online, Dewey says, stepping out of one so-called right wing project 2025 angle to be expanded as his game plan against all those who are not Christian are in the millions who are hearing him say that's not his attack plan.

  23. 47:58

    Let's see the other positives in him being president. I hear what you're saying, but how effective do you think that's going to be? Do you think the quote unquote millions of people in America who are not Christians will be more inclined to listen to him because he slams project 2025? I'm saying that you can distance yourself from it without slamming the people who you know have worked on Project 2025 because he knows organizations that have worked on Project 2025. What I think he thinks is that he's well he's underestimating people's unwillingness to be energetic for him. So I don't think that this is a good move for him. Understanding what Project 2025 is. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.

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