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How can Christians respond when political narratives, online influence, and public debate make it harder to separate truth from distortion? Abraham Hamilton, III turns to Scripture to discuss repentance, discipleship, and the moral foundations of a nation.
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Darkness is not an affirmative force. It simply reoccupies the space vacated by the light. This is the Hamilton Corner on American Family Radio. It should be uncomfortable for a believer to live as a hypocrite. Delivery people out of the bondage of mainstream media. And the philosophies of this world. God has called you and me to be his ambassador. Even in this dark moment. Let's not miss our moment. And now, the Hamilton Corner. Good evening, everyone. Welcome to the Hamilton Corner. My name is Abraham Hamilton the third. I am the host of the program joined by the corner contingent right across from me holding down the control board. It is none other than our friendly neighborhood with a holic Mr. Marty Sparks lighting up the dark for us from there and in the screening room, produce extraordinaire often imitated. Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever duplicated. Successfully, that is. It's the real Jay Mac, ladies and gentlemen, and we are ready to rock and roll with today's edition of the program at this very moment, many of you. If not most of you are making your transition from your part-time jobs to your full-time jobs, and I want to encourage you to do so with intentionality. And I want to encourage you in this way, yes, even following the midterm elections, because the King of kings and the Lord of lords is not subject to a ballot. And he is ordained you and me for this time that we're planted in. So we have the privilege and the opportunity to be about our father's business. So as you're making your transition, I want to encourage you to do so with intentionality, understanding that you have the opportunity and the privilege to execute the King's Commission starting right in your home. You get to fortify those within your charge against seduction and deception. You get to invest in executing the Kings Commission and be a part of expanding its kingdom. You get to invest yourself in other image bears of God so that they don't repeat the stupidity of people like the NVIDIA CEO. You know, how many times do we have to have the same story told over and over and over and over and over and over again that a man with a pretty significant position in the corporation is seduced by an adulterous. And now he has to come out with the statement, know, having done great violence to his family, to his wife, to his, the people who are closer to him, their ability to trust him.
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And yet it's, it's, it's happened again. It's happened again. That is by his own admission, by his own admission. I need to grab a Kleenex if I can, guys. It is quite sad. Thank you. It's quite sad to see these things happening. But this is what we get to be a part of. It's unfortunate that we live in a time period where there has been such a dearth of discernment. But that dearth is not merely a temporal phenomenon. What I mean by that, it isn't something that just happened yesterday. This has been frankly a generational reality that we become less and less discerning over time. And the simple reality is in the script is going to bear it out. We're going to get to it in a moment is that when you have a people who are in who are set to rebel against God, then that blunting of discernment is the inevitable outcome. You know, we talk about the warning we got from Isaiah chapter five, for example, a wool one to you who call evil good and who call good evil who put darkness for light and light for darkness. Well, you have to think about that. the people who are calling evil good, they didn't sit there and say, Hey, let me intentionally give the wrong answers to the test. They have been seduced and deceived into embracing frankly, anti-Christ ideology that has marred their ability to distinguish the good, the true and the beautiful from the wicked, the wretched and the wrong. So how do we get out of this man? There's only one way out. Repentance is the only way out, But in much of the post-election follow-up analysis, we have lots of people that want to talk about number crunching and demographic turnout and all of these things.
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But we do not have enough people talking about the necessity for repentance. You know, there's lots of conversations about patriotism. Do you remember how George Washington described patriotism? George Washington in this farewell address said anybody who would work to subvert these indispensable pillars of our Constitution, Republican form of government. They are religion and morality. Anybody who works to subvert those two indispensable pillars, in vain what they call the claim, the virtue of patriotism. In other words, George Washington is saying, you can't be a patriot. If you undermine fidelity to the God of the Bible, to the word of God we go, Jeremiah chapter five, Jeremiah chapter five. I'm gonna start at verse 20, Jeremiah chapter five, Verse 20 is where we're gonna begin this evening's program. And this is what the text says. The Prophet Jeremiah in this portion of his, the book that bears his name is really rebuking the nation of Israel in total. The Southern Kingdom of Judah and the Northern Kingdom of Israel. And this is what the text says, declare this in the house of Jacob, proclaim it in Judah. Hear this, O foolish and senseless people who have eyes, but do not see, or but see not, who have ears, but hear not. Do you not fear me, declares the Lord? Do you not tremble before me? I place the sand as the boundary for the sea. A perpetual barrier that it cannot pass. Though the The waves toss, they cannot prevail. Though they roar, they cannot pass over it. But this people has a stubborn and rebellious heart. They have turned aside and gone away.
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What I want you to see is that as the last verse that I read, verse 23 says, this people has a rebellious heart. This people have turned aside. gone away. Well, as that unfolds, brothers and sisters, the reality of the previous verses are demonstrable. There are people, they have optical lenses, but they don't see properly. The optical lenses work well, but they do not see. What is the Lord talking about here? He's not saying that their ability to perceive images with their eyes has been hindered. What the Lord is confronting is saying that they don't have the discerning eye Similarly people have ears they got these things They got they got these things You got the canals you got the stuff that produced the wax But they don't hear Why it's because they don't have a discerning ear and man and how many times have I said people quote John Adams and and And in talking about our Constitution, Republican form of government is only adequate for religious and moral people, but you ignore the rest of the quote, the rest of the letter that John Adams wrote to the Massachusetts militia men. When he explained, if we have a reputation of solidity and righteousness and clear-headedness in virtue, but it's what he called a deep simulation, meaning that it's fake, it's not real. That's a reputation, but if that's not what we really are, In our hearts and in our inner workings of our interpersonal interactions with our fellow countrymen, John Adams warned in 1796 that this would become our nation will become a most miserable habitation. I'm sorry, 1798, a most miserable habitation. He said, if we have people in our country and their dispositions are unbridled, this is what he said, unbridled by religion and morality, man, they'll go through our Constitution like a whale goes through a net. That's what John Adams, 1798 guys. But amazingly we've lost the plot. We've lost the plot. When I say we, I don't mean that in the overly broad sense. I mean in the generalization sense. I know there's a remnant. I believe I'm a part of the remnant. I believe a significant portion of this audience is a part of the remnant. But what I'm talking about is the broader witness in our country.
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And I'm also saying it in this fashion because we who are the people of God have to do a better job of communicating God's heart to our fellow countrymen who are bearers of his image. Because what has happened by and large is that the witness of the church has diminished over time in our country. I've talked repeatedly about Alexis de Tocqueville's observation. You know when he was contrasting the American founding, not founding the American Revolution with the French Revolution, him being a Frenchman himself, he's trying to figure out why is the United States of America thriving and prospering where my home country with France has degenerated into a bloodbath and a morass of horror. What has happened? And he searched for the source of America's greatness and he sought for it in this political system and didn't find it there. He sought for it in America's banking system and didn't find it there. He sought for it in these other segments of American society and he said, this is not my opinion. This is his expression and his two-volume work on democracy published in 1836. He said, it was not until I entered America's sanctuaries and found the poor pits of flamed and righteousness that I realized what was a source of America's greatness. His words, quote, America is great because she is good. When America ceases to be good, she will cease to be great." Much of the conversation about President Trump's slogan that he borrowed from Ronald Reagan, make America great. Have we considered what it takes to make a nation great? What makes a nation great? How does that happen? Is a nation great based on the stock market numbers? Does that make a nation great? Sure, that's good to have, but I would argue biblically that doesn't make a nation great. a robust military, the greatest fighting force in the history of the world, does that make a nation great?
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We as United States of America should be able to roundly say what the unanimous thunderous know that and make a nation great because our nation's origin story is kind of like a David and Goliath. You know, they got a Goliath with spears and javelins as the size of men. You know, what we have is five stones and a sling. Oh, oh, yeah, by the way, and the Lord of hosts. We should be able to immediately say, oh, no, no, no, that's not what makes our nation great. But what's happened over time? The metrics, the metrics for how we assess greatness of a nation, they've drifted away. The metrics for how we assess patriotism. They don't reflect George Washington's farewell address. So then what happens, what happens as that happens and that becomes a generational phenomenon. You have this, oh, Jeremiah 521, oh foolish and senseless people who have eyes, but don't see, who have ears, but don't hear. Now, I'm not, I'm sharing this with you, not for despondency at all, really as a call for the people of God to arise to meet the moment that we're in currently. And I want to be clear about something. I'm not placing the rebellion of our nation at the foot of the Lord's remnant. But we have an obligation to understand the times that we're in. When John Adams said that our Constitution is only adequate for religious and moral people, he said that knowing that government doesn't produce religious and moral people. So what's the only institution that does that? Well, really it's the church with the family as a foundation for the church. How effective have we been in our country in making disciples generationally?
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That is a hard question, but a necessary question to ask. How effective has the body of Christ in our country been in executing the thing Jesus told us to do? There's lots of things we can do, but one thing Jesus told us to do, go ye therefore and make disciples of all ethnos, teaching them to obey everything that Jesus commanded, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit. That's what Jesus said. Matthew 28 verses 19 and 20. It's right there in the scripture, but have we obeyed with the Lord has commanded us? And see, the privilege to obey our Lord, the celebration is in obeying the divine potentate of time and in eternity, and we trust Him with the results. But if we have moved into an idolatrous disposition, We are not as invested in the opportunity to obey the sovereign king. Hello, I'm Abraham Hamilton, III. Did you know that this content is listener supported? Without people like you, this podcast would not exist. That's why we need you. A generous monthly gift of any amount will help sustain American Family Radio and specifically this podcast. Please consider becoming a monthly financial partner today by visiting aFR.net slash gift. It's AFR.net slash give shining light into the darkness. This is the Hamilton corner on American family radio. Welcome back to the Hamilton corner, Abraham Hamilton the third here. Speaking of discernment, buckle your seat belts for this one because I'm y'all are about to be upset.
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So I came across this clip that I'm about to play for you early this morning as I was preparing for today's program. And it's a clip from Van Jones. And I'm not going to play it just yet because I want to set it up. That during the clip, Van Jones is gleeful. I mean, he cannot contain himself. He is rejoicing about the Democrats' victory in the midterm elections. He specifically says, it's not going to be the part of the clip I play for you, but the portions that lead up, that would have, that transpired before the portion I pray for you, you talking about, yeah, we whooped him. He uses we over and over and over and over and describing the Democrat Party because I know he is a a a a a a a a regressive and a sicker fan of the Democrat Party. And what the clip is going to talk about is how he and his view the Democrats were successful in articulating them. Um, the what he calls the affordability message, right? But even before this, because this is something I would have been talking to Bobby about for or pipe some time, I was doing some digging, and I was looking in the numbers, and it's like, wow, if you look back at what the environment was in the economy, in 2022, for example, during the midterm elections, under Mr. Ice Cream Man, the economy was worse than it is now. But do you recall anybody talking about affordability in 2022? I know. Now, on the one hand, of course, We had the lying talking snake media who basically was playing goalie for anything that could be viewed as a negative in relationship to Mr. Biden's president and presidency. I mean, they wanted to tell us we were crazy for saying, we know the lights are on, but not everybody's home upstairs. They're like, you are just cruel because he has a stutter. Remember that? I'm going to give you a couple of examples of the comparisons, right?
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So in 2022, the inflation rate was 9.1%. You want to know what the inflation rate was last week, last Tuesday on election day? 3.3%. 3.3%. Per family income, per family income today. Now, I understand prices are another thing, but per family income has hit the highest it's ever been in the United States of America as of last Tuesday, $87,000 per family. That's the highest it's ever been in the country. So high as it's ever been gas prices. There's been a lot of conversation about gas prices Do you realize in 2022 gas hit $5 a gallon in January? I'm sorry July not January in July and On the election day of 2022 22 gas was guess how much? $4.03 guess what gas was last Tuesday $4.00 six cents Not much difference right It's just amazing the gross domestic product of GDP just hit 3.4 percent. The next projection showed the GDP will go by 5 percent. In 2022, it was less than 2 percent. I mean, we can go over these numbers over and over and over again. Now, none of this excuses the reality that pricing is higher. So you do have the reality that when Mr. Ice Cream Man took over in 2020, inflation was only at 1.9 percent. So when inflation shot up, up to 9.1% under Mr. Ice Cream, and it was a novel thing for the United States of America. And let's be fair, a lot of that inflation in the transition period came as a result of some of the policies President Trump implemented at the end of his 2016 term due to schmovit responses. All right, that's just true. But you go forward, you have now President Trump coming back in, and he inherits an over over 5% inflation rate, which he's able to get down in a short amount of time.
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But what I'm pointing out is that there was a messaging problem because President Trump came and saying, we're going to make sure everything, we're going to make everything lower. We're going to, he said, we're going to make everything affordable. Well the reality is you can't, you don't control prices through the old office. And what he meant based on what he did was he was going to attack the inflation rate. That's what he meant, but the pricing didn't go. What my point in sharing this is that the economy, frankly, prices are higher, no doubt, tariffs had an effect upon that. And I also think that the Iran war, which it count me among the group that it is unfathomable, fathomable to me for the zealots in Iran to have a nuclear weapon, but the president promised no more foreign wars. That's what he promised. So how you going to square that circle? But what I want you to see here is that the conversation, the zealous conversation about affordability, it was not an organic conversation, folks. This is not my opinion. Van Jones got out his peacock feathers and wanted to take a celebration strut and spike the football. And was so excited to say, I can tell y'all this now, because this is what happened. Listen to and watch and listen closely and watch closely. Clip number one from Van Jones, clip number one, go. Now it can be told. Now it can be told. How did we win the narrative on affordability? Were there just these nice little Democrats out there writing for office and going to know? The Republicans never figured out what we were doing. There's something called the American Accountability Network. tens of thousands of online humans, not bots, coordinated to make the affordability message, a winning message online.
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32.5 million people hit on Instagram every day. 88.8 million hit on Twitter, every single day. And 185 million Facebook hits every single day. And they never figured it out. The Republicans could not understand it wasn't bots. It was actual human beings. The most effective online organizing campaign called the American Accountability Network flew under the radar screen, never been told. And they were talking about the issue or they were saying you need to like Democrats to deal with this. Driving the kitchen table, affordability message, and tying that to Democrats on a positive and Republicans on a negative, the Republicans never figured out what we were doing. And what that meant was everywhere you go, people were talking about affordability, and they were talking about kitchen table issues. They couldn't get any traction on these cultural war issues anymore because we figured out how to get around all that. So it's not just all the door knocking that was done, which is amazing. It's not just our amazing candid quality. We had something called the American Accountability Network. Don't get mad at me. I was given permission to reveal this. They never figured it out. And that network is gonna continue to push for kitchen table issues and hold our Democratic lawmakers accountable. That's fascinating. Van Jones, well, I hope you don't get in trouble, but thank you for that. Oh, I got permission. Tonight. Now it can be told. Now it can be told. I had permission. I got permission to say it now. Now it can be told. We can be told, Van. Oh, yeah. And we have this American Accountability Network, which I did a little digging on them. And with the American Accountability Network, the website was created in 2025. from what money I wonder, geez. It was created for one purpose and one purpose only to counter the dominance of conservatives in the social media in the podcast digital space. That's the whole purpose.
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Van Jones says they hired 10,000 people to engage social media every day. His numbers, 32 and a half million on Instagram, 88. million on X every day, 185 million on Facebook every day. Every day, for what? Now he didn't want to admit this part, but the reporter asked him a follow-up question he had to admit it. So what, are they just discussing affordability issue? No, we're discussing affordability. Whenever we say something positive concerning affordability, connect that to the Democrats. Anytime we say something negative about affordability, connect that to the Republicans. So in other words, you manufacture this affordability conversation. Because if you look at the data objectively, The economy is actually better right now than it was in 2022. In 2022, the Republicans didn't see a red tsunami. Oh, no, they didn't see that. Nobody was talking affordability when Mr. Ice cream man was in office. Cheese. I wonder why. And here's what I'm getting to about discernment. You've heard me say numerous times and get outside, put your feet on the pavement and touch some grass, some flora and fauna because the internet is not the real world. The internet is not the real world. Van Jones just admitted they took advantage of people's attention devoted to the internet to twist their perception of reality for political purposes. Yeah. Mm hmm. Mm hmm. Of course, obviously things, obviously things economically are not perfect. They're not worse than they were when Mr. Ice Cream Man was in office. So why is there such a perception of this? Now, as I As I said earlier, the Iran War or conflict, whatever you want to call it, gave cover for this type of message.
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You're going to take root because people have a basic grasp of an understanding, but we don't buy and large have a populace that would dig into the details, but it's an easy connection for them. Well, the gas to the pump is higher. I mean, they're going to be higher. That's why everything is higher because we weren't provided a thorough understanding, communication of inflation versus prices and how those things work. Now, no doubt that's the part of the administration. That's where they came up short. But what I want you to see very plainly in Van Jones is giddy as a school girl to say it to you is that the American public has been played. Has been played that the entire discourse, the entire discourse was the product of political, calculated, manufacture, the discourse on affordability. That is wild. That is wild. Yes, Mardi's and it's going to continue and this is part of the reason. Look well into the matter. In the United States of America, we have a large country. So there are people on various places and various circumstances that are struggling in different ways. But is that indicative of the entire communication? For example, a hundred and sixty-some thousand jobs just added to the economy at close of October? Here's another thing. Here's another thing. Did you notice how Van Jones said that they were looking for a way to cut the impact of messaging on what he called quote unquote culture war issues? I want to tell you, he's not cultural issues, he's just righteousness. It's just truth and righteousness. But they would call him cultural war issues because they don't want to reflect on them as truth and righteousness. You know, things like men cannot be women, you know, things like children should be protected and not have their genitalia cut off or have medications forced upon them that will hinder, if not completely eradicate, their capacity to reproduce so they get older, they want to call it a cultural issue.
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That's not a culture war issue. That's a truth, righteousness issue. That's a justice issue. That's a judgment issue. But they want to describe it as a cultural issue. So they wanted to pick something that will override that. So, intervangement. And look, he had a happy was he couldn't wait to disclose it. I know some people are thinking, well, hey, why would they disclose this now? Why would they disclose it now? There must be some reason. Let me tell you very plainly, it's no reason. It's the pride that's associated with wickedness and regressivism that they cannot help but preen like a peacock and pound their chests and flex. We want you lost. It's nothing more profound than that because they also believe that they They are in a place where they have unassailable political power. So they feel like, yeah, we'll flex. There's nothing you can do about it now. But you know, biblically, arrogance precedes what pride precedes what, but they don't know these the same people that celebrate using a rainbow for their celebrations. Use God's bow for their celebration, not knowing that it's a pronouncement of their own judgment. Here's another thing. Let's, let's dig into this a little bit further. What groups of people spend most of their time on the internet? Surely, we have certain segments and I even know people say, well, Facebook, it's not as cool today as it used to be. But by and large, who gets their information from the internet? Younger people. Younger people. The same younger people that were deprived of an economics education as they grew up.
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So even if they were interested in finding the real numbers concerning the economy, do you think they would know where to go? Or is the algorithm going to feed them what they already think is true and get the dopamine hit about formation? And then that becomes ubiquitous conversation amongst their peer groups. And then it's reporting. That's why I tell my peers frankly, and immediate, man, don't just try to see what's on the on X just because it's trending on X. Don't mean it's real. Don't mean it's real. it's real. So you got folks, many of them who don't even understand economics at all in the first place. Can't explain inflation to you at all in the first place. Not everybody, but many of them. And so they hear what they already believe and it's affirmed repeatedly repeatedly repeatedly. And then all of a sudden, you know, you have what we have to address affordability. And even that word itself is a subjective reality because certain things that's affordable for Marty, I can't afford. So what's affordable to Marty? Doesn't mean it's affordable for me. But what's happened is what I alluded to in the first segment. We've had an eradication, a blunting of discernment. So we can't even tell when we're being played until it's too late. And so now you have people who were duped with the psi-op of affordability. They're answering their affordability questions by electing Marxists and communists Communists and Islamists tell me how much sense that makes and tell me what do you expect a Marxist to do with an economy when they became an access to the levels of power Has anybody ever heard of ends of a la? Hello, I'm Sam Roar president of the American Pastors Network a growing national network of pastors committed to the authority of scripture and preaching the whole Council of God God. We believe biblical obedience is the foundation for revival and impacting our culture for Christ is our duty. For too long, the pulpits of America have been silent on the important issues such as marriage and family and assault on Lord Liberty. Join us in the Battle for Truth on Stand in the Gap weekend Sunday evenings at 6 p.m. on American Family Radio and visit us at americanpastorsnetwork.org.
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The feature-length documentary Culture Warrior Don Wildman in the Battle for Decency chronicles As the life and ministry of Don Wildman, it takes you through the founding of the National Federation for Decency, what has become AFA. It's a call to stand firm for righteousness and shows how that resolve can make a huge difference in our world. If we lose this cultural war, we're going to have a hedonistic, humanistic society. Find out more and watch at CultureWarrior.movie. The Hamilton Quarter Podcast and One-Minute Common Terrets are available at AFR.net. Back to the Hamilton Quarter on American Family Radio. Welcome back to the Hamilton Corner, Abraham Hamilton, III here. We're already in the third segment. It's amazing, man. Marty was saying during the break. Another reason why Van Jones wants to come out and we can tell it now, whatever he said, said that is because he wants to run it or find the line to be the next James Carvel the next spokesperson for the Democrat Party he wants to be the one that people run to as a spokes mouth you know because they they're feeling rather triumphant at the moment but guys that's that's wild man because if you look at the data objectively the economy was better last Tuesday than it was in 2022. I also think a complication was that the message President Trump gave when he initially came into office and discussing his commitment to attacking prices and things of that nature. But he didn't explain the difference between the inflation rate and prices. You know, there needed to be a bit more skillful communication as to that distinction as to what was planned by the administration, but it's interesting.
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Next, I want to talk a little bit about the reality, and this is coming from the perspective that God has planted us in this time, in our nation, for His purpose and His glory. It's crazy, man. So footage of Dave Chappelle in Madison Square Garden was leaked, I don't know who leaked it, but I saw it, the degradation of our society, man, it's pretty sad. I mean, it used to be that we didn't treat or discuss dead people in the way that we're doing it today. And I shouldn't be surprised that as we have, we've gone from people shouting their abortions on national political platforms and fighting for, as my sister Miki says, the lie that was passed off law to slaughter one's unborn children or unborn child before they have the opportunity to exhale outside of the womb even even seeing after the midterm elections you have women in the northeast of our country celebrating. Abortion is back baby. You know I saw I saw one person say I'm gonna put my black card down at my local abortion clinic anybody who wants one come and get it It's on me. I'm like, what? Y'all think that's funny? Man, that's sick, man. That's sick. That's sick. And we're supposed to be a society that we uphold values, you know, the inalienable right, the unalienable right to speak freely, you know, yet Charlie Kirk is murdered doing that very thing.
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And Dave Chappelle, who was a comedian, decided to crack jokes about it, but in a very, very grotesque way. You know, I was grateful to learn that with people who were at his show in Madison Square Garden, they got up and left when he heard this, but a pretty large portion of the crowd was laughing right along with Dave Chappelle. What am I talking about? During his stand-up routine, he literally goes on to sing that he felt better after learning that Charlie Kirk had been murdered. I'm not kidding. That's why I'm going to play it so you can hear it with your own two ears and see it with own two eyes. Those of you who are watching, the video is grainy, clearly taken on the cell phone from a bit of a distance in Madison Square Garden, but you can see clear enough. And you can hear the audio very well. Listen to and watch clip two, clip number two, go. I feel **** up Zadus. It's scary being a public speaker. And I mean, look, ever since that guy Charlie Kirk back murder and I shouldn't say this publicly, but I feel better. I know I shouldn't say that, but it's just a feeling. You heard him say that, you know, I know I shouldn't say that. If you shouldn't say it, then don't say it. You know, it, you know, his occupation is comedian, but that was not funny. That was not funny. I would have said the same thing no matter who it was like The Lord himself says he doesn't rejoice in the death of the wicked you guys know what went went went went went I've said on the show numerous times whenever I hear somebody pass away my first thought is where I was where where were they spend Attorney that's my first thought you know he goes on and at routine to say Implying Charlie Kirk is in hell saying that Charlie Kirk is looking up at us right now. He said that he sure did he sure did Like what is happening to us, man?
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What's happening to us? And it, it, it's sad, man, it's sad. And I'm not even talking about political orientation or whatever, like, so are we gonna be a society that we gonna continue to denigrate people? Like we gonna rejoice at somebody's death because we have a different opinion than them on something? That's what we gonna do? Death, I'm talking about death. This follows, you know, you had these two vile women, they're vile. What is her name? Jennifer Welch. Jennifer Welch hosts a podcast called I've Had It. She's a very profane and a very vile woman. She's joined by another vile woman named Angie Sullivan. And this was the day after the midterm elections last Wednesday, when they were reading posts of social media from some of their supporters who listen to their podcast and reading them live on the air. And you know, just to give you an idea of some of the stuff that they were reading, I'm like, that's too crass for me to even say, I'm not even, I'm not even going to read that. I'm not even going to read that. They were reading a succession of post-em social media. And one of the supporters of their show said, you don't hear it for yourself. So now this is how they're celebrating the midterm election wins by Democrats. That's how they're celebrating it. One of their supporters said, well, we need to dig up Charlie Kirk's body and do it again. And the host of the show laughed voraciously for like 30 seconds.
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I want you to see it. Clip number three, clip three, go. Charlie Kirk is doing it again. might have to start it over because it kind of came on in the middle of it. Dad Morro says we're digging up Charlie Kirk and doing it again. You got nothing. I did just laughing. Just laughing. Just laughing. I'm zooming into the fox. Like that's funny. They're zooming in for a fox. This is how they're celebrating their electoral victory. What they perceive as their electoral victory. No comment. No comment. You've already commented. Other than he was shot by somebody that was Super Magga, family. He was shot by a Magga person. Right. So do that with what you will. So now a person, white Magga family. So not only are they demonstrating an evil willingness to laugh at somebody's murder, but they're also willing to speak complete falsities for public consumption. Like, I mean, you don't have to do a lot of homework. You can just do a little homework, the person standing trial for murdering Charlie Kirk. His voting records available. Do they even vote in the last two elections? No political affiliation. But you just, where'd you get that from? That's a maga person who is a furry, who has a furry for a boyfriend? Man, this is, and so, Now I want to be, I have to be fair in this regard. There were a lot of people who found that display objectionable, even other Democrats condemned them for this. Sponsors dropped their podcast. All right.
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Rightfully so. Rightfully so. And then after all of that, they came out and apologized, but I want to ask you, do you think their apology is genuine or what they were doing when they were genuinely reading those posts on the podcast? And when they were apologizing, well they're apologizing in an effort to get their sponsors to come back or were they apologized to him because they were gripped at the core at the utter inhumanity it is to laugh at a man who left two babies here left his babies because of a sick, twisted, demented, evil person murdered him. That's what you want to be. That's what you want to be. Now, if you want to say the the the the murderers parents may have voted for President Trump. They didn't murder, they didn't murder Charlie Kirk. But it's sad, man. It's sad. It's sad. I believe they were being honest when they were laughing. That's why I wanted you to see it for yourself. Guys, this is the time that God has planted the people of God because we have to address this, not just talk about it as being distasteful. We are the people, the people of God are able to explain that that kind of disposition comes from a heart that is blackened by the evil one. You get a lot of people saying that that was an inappropriate comment. You won't get enough people saying that you need to repent. That's only going to come from one source. And to that end, man, I want to ask you to continue to pray for President Trump.
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Because in his 60 minutes interview that just aired this weekend, he demonstrated that he doesn't understand the gospel. He demonstrated that he does not understand the gospel. I'm running out of time so I got to move a little quickly. I want you to hear his first part first, because he identifies himself as a religious person who does not want to go to hell. Listen to him say that in his own words. Clip four, go. Let's talk about death. You have survived multiple assassination attacks. One came very, very close to you. I imagine that that had some kind of effect on how you think about mortality. What do you think happens when you die? Well, I hope I missed. I mean, I really missed. I really missed. I hope I missed. I don't understand. I've done a good job. What do you think happens to Donald Trump when you die? Well, I got your memory yourself. You mean where I go? Exactly. Well, I'm a religious person, so in theory I go to heaven. Do you think you're going to heaven? I hope so. I don't want to go to hell. In theory I go to heaven. Do you think you're going to heaven? I hope so. Somebody needs to let the president know that he has the capacity to have security in faith. For the sake of time, let me hurry up because I want you to hear this part two. The president doesn't understand the power of forgiveness. Listen to clip number five, clip five, go. You pass away, you're entering the next life. And all you have to do to enter paradise is feel love and forgiveness for James Comey, Nancy Pelosi. Anyone who you have expressed hate for over the years, do you think you can do it? Well, then I wouldn't be real, would I? I mean, if I said to you, sure, the easy answer to that, Oh yes, I could forgive. No, I don't think it's an easy question at all. I found them to be extremely dishonest people, very bad people, very bad for our country. I love our country far more than I can love people and people like that. Is the answer no. The answer is no.
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I want to be honest. Before the judgment. I think the judgment. No, I think there were very bad people and I dislike, I can use the word hate. I do hate some of my enemies. I think they've been terrible. Look what they put me through the weaponization. You have died in. Mr. President. Mr. President, you have had the most charmed and remarkable life of any American in my entire lifetime, and you are telling me you couldn't find it in your heart to forgive some of your enemies? After all that's been given to you? I mean, it's such an easy answer. Well, I have to do say yes, I can't. I, again, I don't think it's an easy answer. Can I be honest? Yes. I probably cannot do that now because I do hate some of my enemies and I always will. The President needs prayer. Forgiveness is not something you will yourself toward. It is the byproduct of the work of the Spirit of God. I believe this is a moment that God allowed us to see to know with a bit more clarity as to how we should pray for the President. He shouldn't be comfortable saying that I hate them and I always will. I pray that the Lord dispatches his hands and feet to help the President cease the clarity of the gospel. The views and opinions expressed in this broadcast may not necessarily reflect those of the American Family Association or American Family Radio.